The Argument For The Literal Birth of Jesus Christ – 2.

The virgin birth is not like the stories of pagan gods throughout antiquity, had the risk of compromising people’s belief in the Messiah, and was not emphasized heavily throughout the New Testament, meaning this is something the church did not made up and added to the Gospels.

 

The Virgin Birth Of Jesus – Did The Church Make This Up?

 

By Mikel Del Rosario. What would you say if someone asked you if the story of Jesus’ virgin birth was real, or if it was copied from other religions? In this post, you see how to think through a few challenges to the historicity of the Virgin Birth.

First, we’ll answer the question “Was the Virgin Birth copied from myths?” Then, we’ll think through the idea that the first Christians just made the whole thing up.

Where should we start when we hear about a supposedly parallel account in some old myth? The first thing to do is check out the myth for yourself and see if there’s really a parallel virginal conception there.

The Virgin Birth wasn’t Copied from Myths

For example, here are the top three stories that tend to come up in my conversations about the virgin birth..and check out my hand-drawn illustrations, too–that’s not stock art!

Horus – No Virgin Birth Story

Horus - A Virgin Birth?

When Peter Joseph’s conspiracy film, Zeitgeist, came out in 2007, I had a student come up to me after I taught one of my World Religion classes at a local college.

As we were walking out to the parking lot together, he told me about this film and wanted to know if the story of Jesus was really based on pagan myths. For example, the video asserted that Jesus’ virgin birth was parallel with the birth of an Egyptian god named Horus. But does the myth itself really say that Horus was born of a virgin?

In Egyptian mythology, Horus’ mother, Isis, was already married to the god Osiris for some time before his conception. But more than this, the best Egyptian account of the myth tells us that that Horus was not born of a virgin.

It actually says that Isis “took in his seed and created the heir…Osiris’ son, Horus, stout of heart, justified, son of Isis.”[1] So the idea that the first Christians copied the story of Jesus’ virgin birth from Horus doesn’t work right off the bat. Why? Because there’s no virgin birth story there to copy.

In fact, there is no ancient evidence of a story about Horus being born of a virgin.

Mithra – No Virgin Birth Story

Mithra - A Virgin Birth?

But other people have heard something about Jesus’ virgin birth being copied from the story of a god named Mithra. I remember hearing about this one Christmas in 1997, when I was just an undergrad at Biola.

Honestly, I had no clue what to think. I wish someone would have encouraged me to see if there were any ancient stories saying that Mithra was literally born of a virgin. Because there aren’t any. Not one.

There are actually a few versions of how Mithra was created, but none of them have anything like Jesus’ virginal conception. For example, in the Roman version, Mithra was born as a full-grown adult coming out of the side of a rock. There’s actually an ancient inscription that says Mithra was “born from the rock.”[2] So, in Mithra’s story, not only is there no virgin, but there’s not even a woman! So, unless you want to call a huge rock a “virgin,” that’s not gonna work. No parallel there.

Caesar Augustus – No Virgin Birth Story

I remember one Christmas, seeing an ABC News special on Jesus where a scholar by the name of John Dominic Crossan compared the story of Jesus’ virginal conception to the idea that the Roman Emperor Caesar Augustus was believed to be the son of Apollo. He was kind of suggesting these stories were “all over Greek and Roman mythology.” But does Augustus’ story actually talk about a virginal conception?

Augustus - A Virgin Birth?

According to the Roman historian Suetonius, Augustus’ mother had already been married for years before a snake suddenly showed up while she was sleeping. S

he discovered this strange mark on herself and 10 months later, Augustus was born.[3] But again, in this story, there is no virginal conception at all. Augustus’ mom already had a kid with her husband before Augustus was born. He even had an older sister![4]

Checking out the ancient sources for alleged parallels is a good place to start when thinking through the idea that the Virgin Birth was borrowed from pagan mythology. In this case, we can be confident that the story of Jesus’ virgin birth wasn’t copied from Horus, Mithra or Augustus because none of them was said to be born of a literal human virgin in any ancient myth.

But if the virgin birth wasn’t copied, does that mean the church just made the whole thing up? How should we think through the claim that church made up the story of Jesus’ virgin birth?

The Virgin Birth wasn’t Made up by the Church

Here are three reasons why it doesn’t look like the early church made up the story of Jesus’ virgin birth.

1. The Virgin Birth Raised Suspicions

Making up a fake story about Jesus’ virgin birth wouldn’t make Christianity more attractive to the Jews. It would actually make people suspicious about Jesus. Who was the real dad? Did Mary hook up with a Roman soldier? That kind of thing. Why make it more difficult to accept the Christian message? The ancient church wouldn’t have taught that Jesus was born of a virgin unless they had good reasons for believing he actually was.

2. The Virgin Birth Wasn’t Emphasied

Jesus - A Virgin Birth

But other people say the Virgin Birth story would make Christianity seem more attractive–maybe not to the Jews, but to the to Greeks and Romans. They were into emperor worship. They were cool with thinking of their leaders as gods. But that’s just one part of the story.

 

When we see the gospel preached in the New Testament, the church doesn’t emphasize the Virgin Birth story at all. Why wouldn’t the earliest Christians make more of Jesus’ virgin birth if they invented it to make the faith seem more attractive to the people who weren’t Jewish? Why wouldn’t they talk it up if the made it up?

3. The Virgin Birth is Different from Myths

People who thought of certain human rulers as gods only thought they were lower gods in the context of polytheism–a belief in many gods. For example, no one thought Caesar Augustus was the one, true God who made the heavens and the earth. More than this, there’s no snake sneaking up on Mary in the gospels accounts. Jesus is just conceived in her womb as miracle of God and the Bible doesn’t say much about how that actually happened.

In the end, it’s pretty unlikely that the first Christians would make up the story of the Virgin Birth because it wouldn’t help advance the Christian cause. If they thought it would help their case, why didn’t they emphasize this story in their preaching? And if the virgin birth was patterned after myths, why doesn’t it look like these myths?

It’s Reasonable to Believe the Virgin Birth Happened

So the church didn’t get the Virgin Birth story from somewhere else and they didn’t create it out of theological reflection; That means—as unusual as it sounds—the Virgin Birth story must have come from a real event. In other words, if the Virgin Birth wasn’t copied from myths and it wasn’t made up, the remaining option is that the Virgin Birth is real.

If there really is a creator God who made the heavens and the earth, and if Jesus left heaven to come to earth, it’s reasonable to believe that the virgin birth happened.

References
[1] The Great Hymn to Osiris from Dynasty 18 (stela Louvre C 286) mentions Isis’ impregnation by her brother-husband, Osiris, in this myth: “Isis the powerful…took in his seed and created the heir, who suckled the child in solitude…Osiris’ son, Horus, stout of heart, justified, son of Isis, heir of Osiris.” Jan Assmann, Death and Salvation in Ancient Egypt, 24-25.
Françoise Dunand and Christiane Zivie-Coche explain Horus’ birth succinctly in their publication with Cornell University Press: “After having sexual intercourse, in the form of a bird, with the dead god she restored to life, [Isis] gave birth to a posthumous son, Horus.” Gods and Men in Egypt, 39. See also All About Horus – An Egyptian Copy of Christ? for more scholarly sources refuting the Zeitgeist movie’s claims about Horus.
[2] “Mithra was known as the rock-born god. The inscriptions confirm this nomenclature: one even reads D(eo) O(omipotenti) S(oli) Invi(cto), Deo Genitori, r(upe) n(ato), ‘To the almighty God Sun invincible, generative god, born from the rock’. Manfred Clauss, The Roman Cult of Mithra: The God and His Mysteries, 62-63.
[3] “When [Augustus’ mother] Atia had come in the middle of the night to the solemn service of Apollo, she had her litter set down in the temple and fell asleep, while the rest of the matrons also slept. On a sudden a serpent glided up to her and shortly went away. When she awoke, she purified herself, as if after the embraces of her husband, and at once there appeared on her body a mark in colors like a serpent, and she could never get rid of it; so that presently she ceased ever to go to the public baths. In the tenth month after that Augustus was born and was therefore regarded as the son of Apollo.” Suetonius “Twelve Caesars” Augustus 94:4, accessed online at http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Suetonius/12Caesars/Augustus*.html
[4] Octavia was Augustus’ full sister. http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/424838/Octavia

This article was originally published on the website of Apologetics Guy.

http://reasonsforjesus.com/the-virgin-birth-of-jesus-did-the-church-make-this-up/

https://www.facebook.com/ReasonsforJesus/

___________                    ~0~                  ____________

Many thanks for taking time to read and share the above post. For similar posts please visit Laura’s blog Our Spiritual Quest.

 

DISCLAIMER:

Laura Maxwell does not necessarily agree with all the information and conclusions presented by friends, guest articles on her blog, TV or radio interviews or her own radio show.

Laura is not paid for writing in books, magazines or appearing on TV, radio or at events. All of her work is of a voluntary nature.

Click on this LINK to see some of her TV interviews.

LIVE on Revelation TV – Airs by satellite across Europe, USA and beyond. Plus online.

 

Advertisements
Posted in Apologetics, Archaeology, Books, Debunking Athiesm, Evidence for Jesus and The Bible, Guest Articles, Uncategorized | Tagged , , | Leave a comment

The Argument For The Literal Birth of Jesus Christ – 1.

Christian Medical Fellowship (CMF)

We reflect on the meaning of the incarnation for all of us today.

Jesus was fully human – a baby, born of a young mother, raised in an ordinary family. Yet at the same time he was fully God. As many have just celebrated this profound mystery, let’s look at the facts!

 

Christmas: The Miracle of The Incarnation

Many of our colleagues are sceptical of the miraculous elements in the life of Jesus Christ: the virgin birth, the healing miracles and the resurrection. They ‘know’ as health professionals that such things are medically impossible.

But the real miracle, on which all rests, and which we celebrate at Christmas, is actually the incarnation, the Word becoming flesh. CS Lewis, in his classic book Miracles, calls it ‘the grand miracle’.

If we can accept the incarnation – the idea that God could become a human being – then all other aspects of Jesus’ life naturally follow on. They are exactly what we would expect if God were walking on the earth. Apologist Josh McDowell has suggested that if God became a man we would expect to see the following things:

  • He would have an unusual entry into life – which is exactly what we find in the virgin birth.
  • He would be morally perfect. When Jesus challenged others to find him guilty of sin no one could answer.

If God became a man, we’d expect him to perform astounding miracles. The gospel accounts are full of them: he heals those who are deaf, blind and paralysed; he calms storms, walks on water and turns water into wine. According to eyewitnesses, Jesus healed diseases for which even today there is no treatment; instantaneously, irreversibly and unambiguously.

We’d expect him to speak the greatest words ever spoken. People responded to Jesus in amazement. ‘How did this man get such learning without having been taught?’ ‘No one ever spoke the way this man does‘.

Psychiatrist James Fisher has written: ‘If you were to take the sum total of all the authoritative articles ever written by the most qualified of psychologists and psychiatrists on the subject of mental hygiene – if you were to combine them and refine them and cleave out all the excess verbiage – if you were to have these unadulterated bits of pure scientific knowledge concisely expressed by the most capable of living poets, you would have an awkward and incomplete summation of the Sermon on the Mount’.

If God became a man, we would expect him to have a lasting and universal influence. Why is it that all religions try to accommodate Jesus somehow, to find a place for him? In the words of historian Kenneth Latourette, it is simply because ‘measured by his effect on history, Jesus is the most influential life ever lived’, profoundly shaping our worldview, our laws, our history, our culture.

We would expect him to satisfy the spiritual hunger in man. Millions testify that Jesus Christ has filled the spiritual vacuum in their lives; that his promise that those who come to him will not thirst or hunger is amazingly true.

Finally, if God became a man, we would expect him to exercise power over death.

The resurrection of Jesus Christ is the best attested historical fact in all of antiquity; over 500 witnesses to his rising from the dead.

It is the only logical explanation for the empty tomb, the dramatic change in the disciples and the spread of the early church. But what does the incarnation mean for us personally?

First, it reminds us that Jesus understands us. He knows what it is like to be a human being. He knows hunger and thirst, pain and sorrow, bereavement and loss, rejection and betrayal. As the writer of Hebrews tells us, he can sympathise with our weaknesses because he has been tempted in every way as we are, and much more.

Second, it reminds us that Jesus can help us: ‘because he himself suffered when he was tempted, he is able to help those who are being tempted’.  What are our areas of weakness? What do we despair over? What is it that is stopping us growing as Christians? What is it we are fighting that perhaps no one else sees or knows about? He is able to help us.

Third, the incarnation is a model for us in our own Christian lives. We are called to walk in Jesus’ footsteps. The cross is a pattern for us to follow. We are to carry the cross, to take our share of suffering, to bear the burdens of others.

Fourth, the incarnation helps us in our evangelism. It challenges us to cross social barriers as Jesus did, to make ourselves accessible and vulnerable, in the way that Jesus was, to be, in the words of Paul, ‘all things to all people‘. (16)

But finally, and most importantly, the incarnation reminds us of why Jesus came, because Christmas is the prelude to Easter. The same Jesus who grew in the womb and lay in the manger was sent to die on a cross and rise from the dead in order to reconcile us to God.

Christmas starts and ends with Jesus Christ. Let’s keep him at the centre.

***

Isaiah 9:6-7

For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

Of the greatness of his government and peace
there will be no end.
He will reign on David’s throne
and over his kingdom,
establishing and upholding it
with justice and righteousness
from that time on and forever.
The zeal of the Lord Almighty
will accomplish this.

***

Dr Peter Saunders is CMF Chief Executive and was formerly a general surgeon. He also serves on the boards of the International Christian Medical and Dental Association and Coalition for Marriage and is campaign director for the Care Not Killing Alliance.

From Christian Medical Fellowship (CMF) December 23 

http://www.cmfblog.org.uk/2016/12/24/christmas-the-miracle-of-the-incarnation/

Christian Medical Fellowship (CMF)

 

___________                    ~0~                  ____________

Many thanks for taking time to read and share the above post. For similar posts please visit Laura’s blog Our Spiritual Quest.

Laura's blog banner

DISCLAIMER:

Laura Maxwell does not necessarily agree with all the information and conclusions presented by friends, guest articles on her blog, TV or radio interviews or her own radio show.

Laura is not paid for writing in books, magazines or appearing on TV, radio or at events. All of her work is of a voluntary nature.

Click on this LINK to see some of her TV interviews.

Posted in Apologetics, Archaeology, Bible Devotional Readings, Bible Prophecy, Creation Science, Creationism, Debunking Athiesm, Evidence for Jesus and The Bible, Frequently Asked Questions, Guest Articles, Online Article, Salvation, The Truth Movement, Truth Seeker, Welcome To This Blog! | Tagged , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | Leave a comment

Scholars Agree Jesus “Certainly” Existed!By Reasons For Jesus.

Steven Bancarz, ‘In this article, we look at quotes from atheist scholars who unanimously agree that Jesus Christ existed as a historical figure. The idea that Jesus never existed is simply not taken seriously by experts. We have too many sources for Jesus.’

“This is not an issue for scholars. There is no scholar in any college or university who teaches classics, ancient history, new testament, early christianity, who doubts that Jesus existed. He is abundantly attested in early sources.” – Dr. Bart Ehrman, Professor of Religious Studies, UNC.

Steven Bancarz

Steven Bancarz

Did Jesus Exist? All Scholars Agree He “Certainly” Existed

By Steven Bancarz ‘There are many sensationalist claims that get passed around the internet about Jesus of Nazareth.  Did Jesus even exist? Some claim Jesus was a mystic, or that the person of Jesus was invented by the Romans as a way to enforce control over people.  Some argue Jesus was a metaphor for the sun or was just a knock-off of other ancient gods.’

An article in particular blew up online called “Five Reasons To Suspect Jesus Never Existed“, and in the article it claims that “a growing body of scholars “now believe Jesus never even existed as a human being in the first century.

It has become an internet fad and online trend to assert that Jesus is a product of some kind of political, social, or economic agenda of the Roman Empire, and that it is all a part of a big conspiracy.  Jesus was a knock-off of other dying and rising pagan gods, there is nothing new about the story of Jesus, and the whole story of his life was invented by religious authorities. This idea is so popular that it has become a commonplace suggestion.  “There is no evidence that Jesus existed” is a catchphrase used by angry atheists and New Agers alike.

But is this idea taken seriously by any professors of ancient history, Biblical studies, or New Testament studies?  To say the least, no. In fact, not a single academic scholar today with a Ph.D. in a relevant field of study claims that Jesus did not exist.

Why is this?  Don’t they know of the articles online debunking Jesus, or documentaries like “Religulous” or “Zeitgeist” that debunk Jesus of Nazareth? Are they all unenlightened about how Jesus was a knock-off of horus or other ancient gods?

There is a group of about 3 main semi-scholarly people who argue for this “Christ-myth theory” that Jesus never existed. Richard Carrier is the most popular one, and quite frankly, is the only one who is even somewhat listened to by academics. He was mentioned multiple times in the article mentioned above,

Carrier has a Ph.D. in Ancient Studies from Columbia University with a specialty in Roman history, though he is currently unemployed having never held an academic position at any university.  His claim is that the existence of Jesus is sufficiently improbable and his historicity cannot be considered certain, and therefore we are not justified in claiming he existed.

Being the most outspoken and well-known advocate of the Christ-myth theory, it’s important to take a look at what fellow scholars in his field have to say about his position.  Here is what some atheist experts have to say about Richard Carrier and the Christ-myth theory in general.

No Atheistic Bible or New Testament scholar take Richard Carrier or the Christ-myth theory seriously

bart-ehrman

R. Joseph Hoffman is an atheist historian. Hoffmann holds graduate degrees in theology from Harvard Divinity School and a PhD in Christian Origins from the University of Oxford. He is a former Chair of the Committee for the Scientific Examination of Religion.

In response to the claim that Jesus never existed, Hoffman said on his blog:

ONLY IN THE AGE OF INSTANT MISINFORMATION AND NET-ATTACK IS THIS KIND OF IDIOCY POSSIBLE.  ONLY IN THE ATHEIST UNIVERSE WHERE THE MAJOR PREMISE – “RELIGION IS A LIE SO THE STUDY OF RELIGION IS A STUDY OF LYING”– INFECTS EVERYTHING IS THIS KIND OF LUNACY POSSIBLE.”

“The free thought rabble have chosen (Richard) Carrier as their standard bearer, without any reason to put their trust in his inane conclusions and methods — a man who has never published a significant piece of biblical scholarship, never been peer reviewed (peers?), never been vetted, and never held an academic position.  His “reputation” depends on deflecting his mirror image of himself as a misunderstood, self-construed genius onto a few dozen equally maladroit followers.”

“The endorsement of amateurs by amateurs is becoming a rampant, annoying and distressing problem for biblical scholarship. The disease these buggers spread is ignorance disguised as common sense. They are the single greatest threat, next to fundamentalism, to the calm and considered academic study of religion, touting the scientific method as their Mod Op while ignoring its application to historical study. While there is some very slight chance that Jesus did not exist, the evidence that he existed is sufficiently and cumulatively strong enough to defeat those doubts.”

Bart Ehrman, an agnostic-atheist, is one of the most respected New Testament scholars of our day.  He is currently the James A. Gray Distinguished Professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina, and received his Ph.D. from Princeton Theological Seminary.

Ehrman says that the proponents of the Christ-myth theory do not define what they mean by “myth” and maintains they are really motivated by a desire to denounce religion rather than examine historical evidence.  He discusses leading contemporary mythicists by name in his book Did Jesus Exist?, and dismisses their arguments as “amateurish”, “wrong-headed”, and “outlandish”.  The whole book outlines all of the historical evidence for Jesus, which tearing down the unscholarly view that Jesus is a myth.

He goes on to say at a conference:

“This is not an issue for scholars. There is no scholar in any college or university who teaches classics, ancient history, new testament, early christianity, who doubts that Jesus existed.  He is abundantly attested in early sources.  Early and independent sources indicate that Jesus certainly existed.  Paul is an eyewitness to both Jesus’ disciple Peter and the brother of Jesus. Like, I’m sorry. Atheists have done themselves a disservice by jumping on the bandwagon of mythicism because it makes you look foolish to the outside world.”

In an article he wrote for Huffington Post, Ehrman said:

“There are a couple of exceptions: of the hundreds — thousands? — of mythicists, two (to my knowledge) actually have Ph.D. credentials in relevant fields of study. But even taking these into account, there is not a single mythicist who teaches New Testament or Early Christianity or even Classics at any accredited institution of higher learning in the Western world.

And it is no wonder why. These views are so extreme and so unconvincing to 99.99 percent of the real experts that anyone holding them is as likely to get a teaching job in an established department of religion as a six-day creationist is likely to land on in a bona fide department of biology. Whether we like it or not, Jesus certainly existed.”

In The Historical Jesus: Lecture Transcript and Course Guidebook, 2000, he says:

“ONE OF THE MOST CERTAIN FACTS OF HISTORY IS THAT JESUS WAS CRUCIFIED ON ORDERS OF THE ROMAN PREFECT OF JUDEA, PONTIUS PILATE”. (P. 162)

What do other Atheist historians and Atheist New Testament scholars have to say about this?

But Ehrman and Hoffman are not the only atheists history scholars who think the idea of Jesus never existing is silly.  The following is a list of accredited New Testament scholars who are either atheists, lack belief in God, or non-Christians who affirm the existence of Jesus beyond any doubt.

They have no invested interested in Christianity, they deny that Jesus is the Son of God, they don’t think Jesus was divine in any way, and they deny that Jesus rose from the dead.  They are just atheistic or agnostic scholars of the ancient world who hold academic positions in fields of study relevant to the history of Jesus of Nazareth.

Gerd Lüdemann – A German New Testament Historian. Professor at the University of Gottinggen as a member of the Chair of History and Literature of Early Christianity.  He believes Jesus existed by denies the resurrection hypothesis:

“JESUS’ DEATH AS A CONSEQUENCE OF CRUCIFIXION IS INDISPUTABLE”. IN THE RESURRECTION OF CHRIST: A HISTORICAL INQUIRY2004, P 50

John Dominic Crossan – An Irish New Testament professor and historian. He teaches Jesus existed but wasn’t the Son of God:

“THAT HE WAS CRUCIFIED IS AS SURE AS ANYTHING HISTORICAL CAN EVER BE, SINCE BOTH JOSEPHUS AND TACITUS…AGREE WITH THE CHRISTIAN ACCOUNTS ON AT LEAST THAT BASIC FACT.” – JESUS: A REVOLUTIONARY BIOGRAPHY. HARPERONE. P. 145

Michael Grant – A Classicist, 3 history degrees, former vice-chancellor at Queen’s University of Belfast and former president of the University of Kartoum:

“In recent years, ‘no serious scholar has ventured to postulate the non historicity of Jesus’ or at any rate very few, and they have not succeeded in disposing of the much stronger, indeed very abundant, evidence to the contrary.” in Jesus: An Historian’s Review of the Gospels by Michael Grant 2004 page 200.

“If we apply to the New Testament, as we should, the same sort of criteria as we should apply to other ancient writings containing historical material, we can no more reject Jesus’ existence than we can reject the existence of a mass of pagan personages whose reality as historical figures is never questioned.” Jesus: An Historian’s Review of the Gospels (New York: Macmillan, 1977), 199-200.

Ed Parish Sanders – A New Testament scholar. Former Arts and Sciences Professor of Religion at Duke University, North Carolina. Two doctorates in theology. One of the most respected New Testament historians.

The Historical Figure of Jesus, p10-11:

“I shall first offer a list of statements about Jesus that meet two standards: they are almost beyond dispute; and they belong to the framework of his life, and especially of his public career. (A list of everything that we know about Jesus would be appreciably longer.) Jesus was born c 4 BCE near the time of the death of Herod the Great; he spent his childhood and early adult years in Nazareth, a Galilean village; he was baptised by John the Baptist; he called disciples; he taught in the towns, villages and countryside of Galilee (apparently not the cities); he preached ‘the kingdom of God’; about the year 30 he went to Jerusalem for Passover; he created a disturbance in the Temple area; he had a final meal with the disciples; he was arrested and interrogated by Jewish authorities, specifically the high priest; he was executed on the orders of the Roman prefect, Pontius Pilate.”

He goes on to say:

“Historical reconstruction is never absolutely certain, and in the case of Jesus it is sometimes highly uncertain. Despite this, we have a good idea of the main lines of his ministry and his message. We know who he was, what he did, what he taught, and why he died. ….. the dominant view [among scholars] today seems to be that we can know pretty well what Jesus was out to accomplish, that we can know a lot about what he said, and that those two things make sense within the world of first-century Judaism.” The Historical Figure of Jesus, p10-11

Geza Vermes – Ph.D. in theology. Professor of New Testament Studies at Western Theological Seminary, in Holland, Michigan.  Former professor of Jewish studies at the University of Oxford:

“Who was Jesus? Did he exist? Was he God? Is he still relevant? To start with, the existence of Jesus is no longer debatable. He was crucified under Pontius Pilate, Roman governor of Judea between AD26 and 36, and was most probably born shortly before the death of Herod the Great in 4BC. Quasi-certainty stops here.” Article by Geza Vermes

George Albert Wells – Atheist Emeritus professor of German at the University of London. Once believed Jesus was a myth, and one of the best known advocates of the “christ myth” theory. Well has changed his position to accept the existence of a historical Jesus. In 2003 Wells stated that he now disagrees with Robert M. Price on the information about Jesus being “all mythical”:

“Nearly all commentators who mention the matter at all, [set] aside doubts about Jesus’ historicity as ridiculous.” He adds, “the view that there was no historical Jesus, that his earthly existence is a fiction of earliest Christianity … is today almost universally rejected.”  “Serious students of the New Testament today regard the existence of Jesus as an unassailable fact” – Did Jesus Exist?, Revised edition (London: Pemberton, 1978, 1986), p 213. and The Historical Evidence for Jesus (Buffalo: Prometheus, 1988), p 218.

Marcus Borg – Ph.D. Former Distinguished Professor of Religion and Culture at Oregon State University. He is a Bible scholar and an agnostic who believes Jesus was a Jewish prophet and teacher.

In an interview, Borg is asked “So we have the proposition: “Jesus once walked this earth.” True or false?”. Borg responds: “True.  The reasons for thinking that Jesus was invented by the early Christians are so weak. We have no reason to think that they did.”

In another interview he stated: “Though a few books have recently argued that Jesus never existed, the evidence that he did is persuasive to the vast majority of scholars, whether Christian or non-Christian”.

“Some judgments are so probable as to be certain; for example, Jesus really existed, and he really was crucified, just as Julius Caesar really existed and was assassinated… We can in fact know as much about Jesus as we can about any figure in the ancient world.” in The Meaning of Jesus: Two Visions

According to Marcus Borg, the following facts are agreed upon by most New Testament scholars:

  • Jesus was born sometime just before 4 B.C. He grew up in Nazareth, a small village in Galilee, as part of the peasant class. Jesus’ father was a carpenter and he became one, too, meaning that they had likely lost their agricultural land at some point.
  • Jesus was raised Jewish and he remained deeply Jewish all of his life. His intention was not to create a new religion. Rather, he saw himself as doing something within Judaism.
  • He left Nazareth as an adult, met the prophet John and was baptized by John. During his baptism, Jesus likely experienced some sort of divine vision.
  • Shortly afterwards, Jesus began his public preaching with the message that the world could be transformed into a “Kingdom of God.”
  • He became a noted healer, teacher and prophet. More healing stories are told about Jesus than about any other figure in the Jewish tradition.
  • He was executed by Roman imperial authority.
  • His followers experienced him after his death. It is clear that they had visions of Jesus as they had known him during his historical life.

Edwin Judge – He founded the Ancient History department at Macquarie University in Australia for which he is now Emeritus Professor.

“An ancient historian has no problem seeing the phenomenon of Jesus as an historical one. His many surprising aspects only help anchor him in history. Myth and legend would have created a more predictable figure. The writings that sprang up about Jesus also reveal to us a movement of thought and an experience of life so unusual that something much more substantial than the imagination is needed to explain it.” – in the Foreword to The truth about Jesus by P Barnett

Graeme Clarke – He is the Emeritus Professor of Classical (Ancient) History and Archaeology at Australian National University.

“FRANKLY, I KNOW OF NO ANCIENT HISTORIAN OR BIBLICAL HISTORIAN WHO WOULD HAVE A TWINGE OF DOUBT ABOUT THE EXISTENCE OF A JESUS CHRIST” –BRISBANE TIMES

We could sit here all day and quote from hundreds upon hundreds of historians who all tell us the same thing: Jesus really existed.

What ancient sources are there for Jesus?

To put things into perspective, the claim that Jesus never existed of the same caliber of scholarship as contending that the Holocaust never happened, or that the moon landing was filmed in a Hollywood studio.  It is so fringe and so refuted by historical evidence that it doesn’t even get considered as a serious claim by ANYBODY in the academic world.

Gary Habermas has a Ph.D. in history and philosophy of religion. He is a New Testament scholar and Distinguished Research Professor and Chair of the Philosophy and Theology Department at Liberty University.

He says “there are over 42 sources within 150 years after Jesus’ death which mention His existence and record many events of his life.” on page 233 of his book The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus.  They are listed as follows:

9 Traditional New Testament Authors:

Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Paul, Author of Hebrews, James, Peter, and Jude.

Early Christian Writers Outside the New Testament:

Clement of Rome, Ignatius of Antioch, Polycarp, Martyrdom of Polycarp, Didache, Barnabas, Shepherd of Hermas, Fragments of Papias, Justin Martyr, Aristides, Athenagoras, Theophilus of Antioch, Quadratus, Aristo of Pella, Melito of Sardis, Diognetus, Gospel of Peter, Apocalypse of Peter, and Epistula Apostolorum.

Heretical Writings:

Gospel of Thomas, Gospel of Truth, Apocryphon of John, and Treatise on Resurrection.

9 Secular Sources:

Josephus (Jewish historian), Tacitus (Roman historian), Pliny the Younger (Roman politician), Phlegon (freed slave who wrote histories), Lucian (Greek satirist), Celsus (Roman philosopher), Mara Bar Serapion (prisoner awaiting execution), Suetonius, and Thallus.

And this doesn’t even include the hundreds of ancient textual references in the Old Testament that predicted Jesus manner of death, time of birth, place of birth, and burial.  Looking at just a few of these secular sources in more details, The mainstream Jewish historian Josephus refers to Jesus in two separate passages in  ‘Antiquities’ (early 2nd century A.D.).  The following passage mentions Jesus by name, his brother, and the fact that he was called Christ (meaning the Messiah) taken from Book 20, Chapter 9, 1 of the Antiquities:

“FESTUS WAS NOW DEAD, AND ALBINUS WAS BUT UPON THE ROAD; SO HE ASSEMBLED THE SANHEDRIN OF JUDGES, AND BROUGHT BEFORE THEM THE BROTHER OF JESUS, WHO WAS CALLED CHRIST, WHOSE NAME WAS JAMES, AND SOME OTHERS.”

The reliable Roman historian and senator Tacitus(c. A.D. 55 – c. A.D. 117) mentioned Jesus and the Christians by name in ‘Annals, book XV’:

“Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus.”

The Roman historian Suetonius (c. AD 69 – c. AD 122) makes reference to early Christians and possible reference to Jesus in his work Lives of the Twelve Caesars:

“SINCE THE JEWS CONSTANTLY MADE DISTURBANCES AT THE INSTIGATION OF CHRESTUS, HE EXPELLED THEM FROM ROME.”

The Roman magistrate, author, and imperial governor of Bithynia Pliny The Younger (c. AD 62 – c. AD 113) mentions Christ in his Epistles:

“They affirmed, however, that the whole of their guilt, or their error, was, that they were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verse a hymn to Christ as to a god, and bound themselves to a solemn oath, not to any wicked deeds, but never to commit any fraud, theft, adultery, never to falsify their word, not to deny a trust when they should be called upon to deliver it up.”

Greek historian Thallus (c. AD 52) mentions the darkness that fell when Jesus was crucified, as quoted by Sextus Julius Africanus:

“Thallus, in the third book of histories, explains away this darkness as an eclipse of the sun- unreasonably, as it seems to me (unreasonably, of course, because a solar eclipse could not take place at the time of the full moon, and it was at the season of the Paschal full moon that Christ died).”

Assyrian Stoic philosopher Mara Bar-Serapion (c. AD 72) in a letter to his son:

WHAT ADVANTAGE DID THE JEWS GAIN FROM EXECUTING THEIR WISE KING? IT WAS JUST AFTER THAT THEIR KINGDOM WAS ABOLISHED. GOD JUSTLY AVENGED THESE THREE WISE MEN: THE ATHENIANS DIED OF HUNGER; THE SAMIANS WERE OVERWHELMED BY THE SEA; THE JEWS, RUINED AND DRIVEN FROM THEIR LAND, LIVE IN COMPLETE DISPERSION.

The list goes on and on and on.  At a time where the literacy rate was about 3%, that is an incredible amount of sources for a single historical figure within such a short time period.  How do we best explain the movement of Christianity, the radical transformation of religious belief at that time, and the 42 independent ancient sources mentioning Jesus within 150 years of his death?

If even one or two of these is legitimate, that’s enough.

James F. Mcgrath  is an Associate Professor of Religion and Clarence L. Goodwin Chair of New Testament Language and Literature at Butler University.  As he says on his blog in response to the abundance of sources:

“To suggest that these various authors and sources independently invented a historical Jesus, or that despite their divergent views they conspired together to do so, is (to put it charitably) less plausible than the explanation of this state of affairs accepted by all scholars and historians teaching at accredited institutions.” – Blog of James F. McGrath

As The Russell H. Seibert Professor of Ancient History of Western Michigan University Dr. Paul Maier wrote in an article on whether or not Jesus existed:

“No, he didn’t!” some skeptics claim, thinking that this is a quick, powerful lever with which to pry people away from “the fable of Christianity.” But the lever crumbles at its very first use.  In fact, there is more evidence that Jesus of Nazareth certainly lived than for most famous figures of the ancient past. And yet this pathetic denial is still parroted by “the village atheist,” [and] bloggers on the internet. Skeptics should focus instead on whether or not Jesus was more than a man. That, at least, could evoke a reasonable debate among reasonable inquirers, rather than a pointless discussion with sensationalists who struggle to reject the obvious.”

Real history vs Pseudo-history

Here are a few more quotes by some of the world’s leading experts in New Testament studies:

Gerard Stephen Sloyan – A Professor Emeritus of Religion at Temple University and is a Chairman of the Department of Religion. He is also a lecturer in Theology at Georgetown University.

“The pseudoscholarship of the early twentieth century calling in question the historical reality of Jesus was an ingenuous attempt to argue a preconceived position.” (Gerard Stephen Sloyan, The Crucifixion of Jesus: History, Myth, Faith. Minneapolis: Fortress Press, 1995, p. 9)

Emil Brunner – Ph.D. Was a professor of Theology at the University of Zurich and the University of Edinburgh.  Was also a visiting professor at the Princeton Theological Seminary.

“An extreme instance of pseudo-history of this kind is the “explanation” of the whole story of Jesus as a myth.” (Emil Brunner, The Mediator: A Study of the Central Doctrine of the Christian Faith, Cambridge: Lutterworth Press, 2002, p. 164)

Michael McClymond – He holds a Masters in religion, and Ph.D. in theology. He is the Professor of Modern Christianity at Saint Louis University. He has held teaching or research appointments at Wheaton College (IL), Westmont College, University of California – San Diego, Emory University and Yale University.

“While we do not have the fullness of biographical detail and the wealth of firsthand accounts that are available for recent public figures, such as Winston Churchill or Mother Teresa, we nonetheless have much more data on Jesus than we do for such ancient figures as Alexander the Great… Along with the scholarly and popular works, there is a good deal of pseudoscholarship on Jesus that finds its way into print. During the last two centuries more than a hundred books and articles have denied the historical existence of Jesus.

Today innumerable websites carry the same message… Most scholars regard the arguments for Jesus’ non-existence as unworthy of any response—on a par with claims that the Jewish Holocaust never occurred or that the Apollo moon landing took place in a Hollywood studio.” (Michael James McClymond, Familiar Stranger: An Introduction to Jesus of Nazareth, Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 2004, pp. 8 & 23–24)

Nicholas Perrin – A Professor of Biblical Studies at Wheaton College, Illinois. His work focuses on the New Testament and early Christianity.

“THE VERY LOGIC THAT TELLS US THERE WAS NO JESUS IS THE SAME LOGIC THAT PLEADS THAT THERE WAS NO HOLOCAUST.” LOST IN TRANSMISSION?: WHAT WE CAN KNOW ABOUT THE WORDS OF JESUS, NASHVILLE: THOMAS NELSON, 2007, P. 32)

Aside from a very small handul of mythicists who don’t hold professorship in any relevant fields, the consensus is just as universal among historians as the theory of evolution is among biologists. The only difference is, the existence of Jesus is not a theory. It’s a historical fact that we can establish.

Why is it a fad to claim Jesus never existed?

With SO many ancient independent early sources, we can only assume skeptics claim he didn’t exist because they are giving Jesus special treatment for non-scholarly reasons.

We actually have more evidence that Jesus existed than we do for Socrates, Tiberius Ceasar, or anybody else in the ancient world at during that time period, and nobody makes a peep about the fact that we accept the existence of some ancient people on only a couple independent ancient sources.

So why are people so passionate about asserting he is a myth and never even existed?  Where did this come from?  Is it based on an absence of historical evidence for Jesus of Nazareth? Surely it’s not. For we have seen the universal consensus of historians along with dozens of independent ancient sources.

I think that most people who believe Jesus is a myth perhaps have an emotional bias based on their hatred towards the idea of God, religion, the church, greedy pastors, or the behaviour of Christians throughout the course of history.  Not to forget, they do not like the idea of being accountable to a holy God.  They disagree with the doctrine of Christianity, the beliefs of Christianity, they are angry at religion, and are annoyed with fundamentalist Christians.

But to believe Jesus never existed because you disagree with Christianity is equal to saying that Gautama Buddha never existed because you disagree with Buddhism, or Ceasar Augustus never existed because you disagree with his politics.

Even Richard Dawkins admits that Jesus existed:

When you mix in this emotional/intellectual bias with some sensationalist disinformation on the internet, tickle their ears with generalized remarks about how awful “religion” is, sprinkle in some quotes by popular atheists who deny Jesus existed (despite having literally no expertise in ancient history), you have a recipe for enticing people to deny one of the most certain facts of the ancient world.

While there is a very good historical case for the resurrection (which will be explained in a future article), the main point to take away from this is not that Christianity is true, but that Jesus of Nazareth lived in the Middle-East during the 1st century.

While I do believe Jesus is everything He claimed to be, the point of this article is not to prove he is anything beyond a literal figure in the ancient world.  He is not a knock-off of pagan gods or a myth created by the church.  He was a literal historical being that walked this earth, and this is universally recognized as being true by every scholar in any relevant field of study.

Are there some uncertainties regarding the life of Jesus? Sure. But as far as being a historical figure in the ancient world, the case has been closed for a long time.

Sources: Listed within the article

Recommended books: Did Jesus Exist? The Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth. Bart Ehrman. 2012.

Did Jesus Exist? All Scholars Agree He “Certainly” Existed.
Taken from: http://reasonsforjesus.com/jesus-exist-scholars-agree-certainly-existed/
By Steven Bancarz October 15, 2016
Steven Bancarz

Steven Bancarz

Steven Bancarz Steven Bancarz was a famous and hugely influential New Ager and blogger of the incredibly popular sites Spirit Science and Metaphysics.com and thespiritscience.net 
See other articles including:

 

___________                    ~0~                  ____________

Many thanks for taking time to read and share the above post. For similar posts please visit Laura’s blog Our Spiritual Quest.

DISCLAIMER:

Laura Maxwell does not necessarily agree with all the information and conclusions presented by friends, guest articles on her blog, TV or radio interviews or her own radio show.

Laura is not paid for writing in books, magazines or appearing on TV, radio or at events. All of her work is of a voluntary nature.

Click on this LINK to see some of her TV interviews.

LIVE on Revelation TV – Airs by satellite across Europe, USA and beyond. Plus online.

Posted in Apologetics, Archaeology, Books, Debunking Athiesm, Evidence for Jesus and The Bible, Frequently Asked Questions, Guest Articles, Online Article, The Truth Movement, Truth Seeker, Welcome To This Blog! | Tagged , , , , , | 2 Comments

3rd Year Anniversary of The Supernatural with Laura Maxwell on Eternal Radio!

 

The Supernatural with Laura Maxwell  on Eternal Radio celebrates its 3rd Year Anniversary this December. All glory to God!

 

The Supernatural with Laura Maxwell will return mid February 2018 on Eternal Radio!

A special thank you to the Eternal Radio founders Val and Stephen Merrick for graciously giving me this wonderful opportunity to host this show.

Many thanks also to our dear guests, listeners and most of all our loving God for this show on Eternal Radio.

Laura Maxwell. 

MORE DETAILS: https://ourspiritualquest.com/lauras-show-on-eternal-radio/

To view my page on Eternal Radio’s website, please visit http://eternalradio.org.uk/Radio-Shows/The-Supernatural/

FOR MORE ABOUT: Laura Maxwell’s TV and radio shows, publications, speaking engagements, etc, see https://ourspiritualquest.com/about/

 

Listen Live Now!

Eternal Radio is available On Line, On Tablet, On Smartphone and On Smartphone through a variety of listening platforms.

Why not visit www.eternalradio.org.uk to find the best one for you? We provide a free listen app available form Apple and Google Play. Whats more the app has other great features to such as; social media integration and contact links all built in!

Alternatively we can also be heard on “tune in radio” by following the following link http://tunein.com/embed/player/s155805/

 

We are a listener supported station and we very much appreciate the kindness of our listeners that enables us to broadcast the message of God’s love for all mankind to the world.

 

___________                    ~0~                  ____________

Many thanks for taking time to read and share the above post. For similar posts please visit Laura’s blog Our Spiritual Quest.

 

DISCLAIMER:

Laura Maxwell does not necessarily agree with all the information and conclusions presented by friends, guest articles on her blog, TV or radio interviews or her own radio show.

Laura is not paid for writing in books, magazines or appearing on TV, radio or at events. All of her work is of a voluntary nature.

Click on this LINK to see some of her TV interviews.

LIVE on Revelation TV – Airs by satellite across Europe, USA and beyond. Plus online.

 

Posted in Ascended Masters, Challenge & Test The Spirits!, Channeling, Dead People, Deliverance, Divination, Elite, Eternal Radio, Feedback & Praise Reports, Ghost Hunting, Hauntings, Last Days, Luciferianism, Meditation, Mediums, multidimensional beings, Necromancy, New Age Luciferianism, New World Order, Occult, Paganism, Paranormal, Poltergeists, Radio Programs, Reiki, Reincarnation, Secret Societies, sleep paralysis, Spirits & Ghosts, Spiritual Warfare, Spiritualism, SRA, Summoning Spirits, Supernatural, Tarot Cards, Testimonies, The New Age, The Supernatural With Laura Maxwell, Theosophy, Truth Seeker, Welcome To This Blog!, Whistleblowers, Wicca, Witchcraft, YouTube | Tagged , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | Leave a comment

Winter Colds and Flus – Or GeoEngineering? With Felicity Corbin-Wheeler. 

Felicity Corbin Wheeler

Felicity Corbin-Wheeler has a show on Revelation TV and Eternal Radio…

‘I’m on Eternal Radio right now reaching the globe with the Good News about Health with Stephen Merrick. This is an interesting one! And watch my Facebook, lots of mind blowing new scientific and well referenced stuff on the stratospheric spraying that is making so many of us so ill. Wake UP!’

Get Well Stay Well with Felicity Corbin-Wheeler Tuesdays 10am UK time. To listen visit www.eternalradio.org.uk

Chemtrail Flu

‘Pilots, scientists and doctors tell the truth! Trying to tell friends about this?’  Felicity Corbin-Wheeler writes, ‘Just point them to http://www.GeoEngineeringWatch,org. If they have a grain of intelligence they will cotton on. Post these wake up clips. Get in an active group. There is strength in numbers. And don’t talk about chemtrails… talk about solar radiation management, stratospheric spraying. Even the governments admit they are doing it!’

‘Are you suffering from the chemtrail flu? The aching body, coughing, congestion and lack of energy that affects many people every year. Doctors have been saying for a long time that what we think is the flu isn’t necessarily it, mostly blaming other viral infections, but Dr. Len Horowitz has another explanation. He thinks people are getting sick from what he calls chemtrail flu.

For the last 20 years, he says, he has seen more people get sick with unusual upper respiratory infections. He thinks a lot of these cases stem from disease agents called mycoplasma.


Mycoplasma is not quite bacteria, though they are similar. These microorganisms lack a cell wall, which means most antibiotics don’t work on them the way they do on typical disease-causing bacteria. Mycoplasma infections are known for causing pneumonia, but they can also present with vague symptoms like tiredness and malaise, making them difficult to diagnose.


This CONTROVERSIAL DOCTOR EXPLAINS CHEMTRAIL FLU EPIDEMIC. The question then becomes, where does mycoplasma come from, and why does it seem to have become much more common since the late nineties? It is possible that it’s because of increased awareness, as medical professionals like Dr. Horowitz are talking about it, but the doctor himself disagrees.


He blames a conspiracy between the government and large pharmaceutical companies, and even calls the disease a “biological weapon”. His suggestion is that it might have been deployed on purpose, either to control the population or to create demand for pharmaceutical solutions like antibiotics, which of course don’t usually work on these infections. Antibiotics are also hard on the body, potentially causing more disease when they’re used unnecessarily.


A weakened immune system, whether from overuse of medication or from other toxic substances in the environment, leads to even more infections. Dr. Horowitz names ethylene dibromide as an example of these environmental toxins. It was widely used in the past as an additive in leaded gasoline and as a fumigant to spray crops and golf courses.
The substance is extremely toxic to humans and can cause cancer, liver disease and respiratory illness. The chemical has been banned for some of its most common applications but is still in use in some industries. ‘

READ MORE:  http://www.disclose.tv/news/are_you_suffering_from_chemtrail_flu/138244

‘Painful irritation in sinuses, throat, lungs caused by the aluminium that is being stratospherically sprayed to dim the sun. They use nano particulates which damage our delicate respiratory tracts like shards of glass, tainted with aluminium, barium, ethylene di bromide and any other chenical and bacteria or virus they wish. And NO POLITICIAL PARTY HAS THE GUTS TO STAND UP TO THEM. Listen to the Rev Michelle Mann and see a medical specimen of these nano particulates.’

‘UK under Chemical Attack right now. See this clip shot in Wigan today 3rd December 2017. Have YOU had chem flu or cold recently? So many suffering from the chemicals being sprayed stratospherically on a niaive, trusting population. WAKE UP and join the millions of us who are. All the evidence on www.GeoEngineeringWatch.com Stop this madness.’

 

‘See the documentation and commercial patents for the sprays dating from 1950’s:’

 

‘Commercial air travel passengers are being subjected to very real and immediate dangers from the ongoing illegal climate engineering operations. The attached one and a half minute video is a case in point. No wonder so many develop colds and “flu” after flying.’

Dane Wigington
GeoengineeringWatch.org

So interesting. Make your voice heard, while you still have one!
https://www.facebook.com/geoengineeringwatch.org/videos/1417570954948307/

Felicity Corbin-Wheeler ‘That is why we must support Dane and get active. We are going to get hit anyway, so would you rather face the traffic and do something about it, or just wait to get hit from behind?? Some of us have grandchildren to fight for. What a legacy we are leaving them. There has never been a generation that has allowed so much environmental devastation. Get active! Share this information!’

Felicity Corbin-Wheeler ‘If only everyone on FB today would cotton on to this and act. We need a miracle and I pray and BELIEVE for one. It will be the power of the people globally that overcomes. If we delay much longer we will be too late. The chemical disaster is too great already and the seas and land are dying fast, every day… Only a miracle can restore the delicate balance of our universe.’

Viewer: ‘The more I learn the more overwhelmed I feel. I have just changed to organic and raw and all the other things that I’ve learned but to be honest this just makes every effort to eat clean pointless. I presume this happens over uk too.  If it can be stopped by mass outcry we need to be led into it and do it fast!!!’ 

Felicity Corbin-Wheeler: Dont despair… Join GeoEngineeringWatch.organd get active with the rest of us! Dane Wigington is taking the government to court with a legal team.

 

ONE OF THE POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS…

An in-depth look at Aquaponics by John, from http://www.growingyourgreens.com/. John knows a great deal about agriculture. For those who are seriously interested in this sustainable way of continuing to feed our families in our broken, polluted, poisoned world. Very interesting. Note the suggestions he has for improving the method.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raRvjW0e9xQ

Aquaponic Farming adds fish into the equation.! Great news for the future of safe, clean, inexpensive and sustainable food production in a broken, polluted, poisoned planet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLwwLrn2ncI Watch this one and spread the GOOD NEWS.

Felicity Corbin-Wheeler :

Email Felicity Corbin-Wheeler on felicitycorbinwheeler@gmail.com.

 

___________                    ~0~                  ____________

Many thanks for taking time to read and share the above post. For similar posts please visit Laura’s blog Our Spiritual Quest.

 

DISCLAIMER:

Laura Maxwell does not necessarily agree with all the information and conclusions presented by friends, guest articles on her blog, TV or radio interviews or her own radio show.

Laura is not paid for writing in books, magazines or appearing on TV, radio or at events. All of her work is of a voluntary nature.

Click on this LINK to see some of her TV interviews.

LIVE on Revelation TV – Airs by satellite across Europe, USA and beyond. Plus online.

Posted in Bilderberg Group, CERN, Conspiracy Theorists, Elite, End Time Events, Eternal Radio, Facebook, Guest Articles, Last Days, Luciferianism, New Age Luciferianism, New World Order, Revelation TV, Secret Societies, Spiritual Warfare, The Truth Movement, Tribulation, Truth Seeker, TV Programs, Whistleblowers, YouTube | Tagged , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | Leave a comment

Spirit Communication by Ex Paranormal Investigator, Dana Emanuel.

Ex Paranormal Investigator, Dana Emanuel, now Deliverance Minister produced this excellent video and accompanying article. I’m grateful she kindly gave me permission to reproduce it here! Laura Maxwell 

Spirit Communication – A Demonic Invitation by Dana Emanuel of

~0~

0ADFD7E8-48F6-4D02-9E70-0056EF8FCE23.jpeg

Sitting in front of the television set,  flipping through the channels, chances are, you will find at least one show on, that involves some sort of spirit communications. With so many shows dedicated to “paranormal investigations”, or Psychic phenomena, one could easily understand why Spirit Communications is accepted by society, and why most people see no harm in it.

And while it is heavily pushed by the media, the church remains quiet. No one is speaking about it in the church. The statistics of how many Christians that sit in churches every week, but yet believe in earthbound spirits, would most likely be somewhat of a shocking number… considering what the Bible actually says about it.

All spirit communication techniques are against Gods Word. All spirit communication involves contact with demonic spirits.

355E1192-3723-48AF-B090-375EDE7828C0.jpeg

I often shake my head when I hear ghost hunters warn against the use of ouija boards. What they do not understand is, that ALL forms of spirit communications are an abomination to God according to the Bible. Using an ouija board is no different than using dowsing rods, a pendulum, tarot cards, ghost meters, trigger objects, or even a simple voice recorder. Realistically, they all do the same thing. They are all used with the intentions to communicate with the “dead”.

201B00FD-5BB0-4062-B256-FC30111EB876.jpeg

There are different reasons why people attempt to communicate with the dead.  Probably the most common reason would be because of the grief one feels after losing thier loved ones, and thier desire to have contact with them. Wanting so badly to feel that they are still here with them.

EA36BD86-BA70-4902-A269-0C2E0116DD18.jpeg

Another reason would be, our natural fear of death; and curiosity of what is in store for us in the hereafter.

Unresolved issues is also a reason people attempt to communicate with the dead. These issues could range from unanswered questions from our deceased loved ones,  or it could be things such as unresolved crime related issues. An example could be police officers that contact psychics in an attempt to gain information related to crimes committed, surrounding the death of an individual.

E03D50C8-6D9C-4499-A913-EB1C71EC19A3.jpeg

Another reason would be an unhealthy attraction to darkness.  for There can be a thrill in becoming fearful in certain situations.

An example of this could be when someone wants to watch a scary movie, and they find themselves, under covers with one eye peeking around the sheet that is in thier clinched fist, daring to watch the whole movie, but when the scene gets too scary, they pull the sheet over both their eyes, but only to pull the sheet back away again, only seconds later, attempting to watch it again.

There is a thrilling factor to it. But that “scary feeling” we get when we do these things is our natural feelings and conscience, that tells us, it’s not good, and that it is rather evil.

B12752CC-F14C-4466-9DE8-A458915C67C7.jpeg

Ghost hunting can have an euphoria effect. There is something about sitting in a dark room, with all the “up to date” ghost hunting gadgets, daring to do what others are too afraid of doing. Feeling somewhat like a “Spiritual daredevil”. Challenging one’s fearful side.

Sometimes we come across “ghost hunters” that become provocative when communicating with these spirits. They will try to “challenge” these spirits. This is exceptionally dangerous. Why is this dangerous one might ask? Because spirits have not flesh and blood as we have. We cannot fight a spiritual battle using physical weapons.  These spirits are only subject to Jesus. They can only do what God allows them to do. (Job 1:9-12)

A9F80E76-9395-4312-A73F-70EC7F5DF885

The only time a human has authority over demonic spirits, is when they are born again, believers in Jesus Christ, that are in obedience to Gods Word.

*Mark 16:17, Jesus gives specific instructions to all believers, telling them that all those who believe in The name of Jesus, will have the authority to cast out devils…
Jesus only gives this “authority” to cast out demons, to believers. Unbelievers do not have that right.

For example;

*Acts 19:13-16 the vagabond Jews, exorcists took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus saying we Adjure you by Jesus, who Paul preacheth. And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the priests, which did so. And the evil spirit answered and said Jesus I know and Paul I know but who are you? And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded.

As I stated above, “The only time a human has authority over demonic spirits, is when they are born again, believers in Jesus Christ, that are in obedience to Gods Word.”

The reason I mentioned “ in obedience to Gods Word”, is because, even if we claim to believe in Jesus, if we dabble in the occult, by doing things that God forbids us to do, we are in danger. In doing these things, in a sense, we are leaving God’s umbrella of protection.

*Proverbs 1:33 KJV
[33] But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet from fear of evil.

If the enemy merely showed himself as the evil being that he really is, people would do whatever it took to avoid him. But the fact is, he is very deceptive and he will use whatever tactic that best suits you, to destroy you. He “sifts us as wheat”. The enemy comes but to steal, kill, and destroy.

9EEEF8CF-6C47-4907-A549-ACD6C4AF9032.jpeg

God forbids necromancy, and divination in His holy Word. Some often wonder, “ why is it wrong to talk to my deceased loved one, I’m not hurting anything by doing this”? But the truth is, all of Gods “laws/commandments” are in place for our own protection. It’s not because he wants to withhold anything “good” from us, but instead, to protect us from something bad.

God tells us in His Word, that when we die, we immediately go to either heaven, or hell. And the Bible says that once someone in in heaven or hell, that there is a “great gulf”, fixed in place, that makes it impossible for those that are in either place, to return to earth, even if it is to go warn (or talk to) the living. (Luke 16:19-31)

So, if these spirits are not the departed spirits of our deceased loved ones, who, or what are they? The Bible tells us in 2 Corinthians 11:14, that we should take no marvel, for “Satan himself is transformed as an angel of light”

914AB4E5-A344-4D9A-9FCA-2A49CA7238CE.jpeg
Demonic spirits will mimic the dead. These are called “Familiar Spirits”. Familiar spirits are familiar with the person they mimic, as they have followed that family down through the generations, which is the reason why they know so much about the deceased person and their family.

And the Bible tells us, that they will deceive and defile us. (Lev.19-31, Deut.18:10, 2Chronicles 33:6, Lev.20:6, Isa.19:3, Isa.8:19)
In Isaiah, it says:
Isaiah 8:19, And when they Say unto you seek not  them that have familiar spirits and onto wizards a peep and that mutter: should not a people seek onto their God? For the living to the dead?

God wants us to seek him regarding the dead. He gives us all truth in His word. On the other hand, the familiar spirits lie, and will tell us things that are not true. Things that directly conflict with Gods Word. The belief in earthbound spirits alone, is an attack on God’s Word and His truth. This belief is contrary to what the Bible tells us, one example would be, that when unsaved people die, they do not go to hell.
(It takes away the fear of hell)

It gives a false sense of hope to unbelievers, while it takes away the true hope given to the believers.

69E93329-668A-4816-9172-C84F26A2CD1C.jpeg

This is the reason God forbids necromancy, and divination. Satan is here to try to deceive us, and he will masquerade as our deceased loved ones. You see, he always mimics something “good”. Something that will appeal to us. He wants to gain our trust.

When you have a person that is suffering from the grief of losing someone dear to them, the enemy will take advantage of the opportunity, and try to deceive them. This is why in most cases, people will “experience” paranormal activity right after someone they know dies. People want so badly to be able to hold onto their loved ones while it is very difficult for them to accept the fact that they are no longer here. This is a very cruel tactic of the enemy.

Weighing the Evidence:

It’s very interesting to know how many “ghost hunters”, “psychics”, etc., truly rely on their own senses, and trust what these spirits “tell them”. When coming to a conclusion in “paranormal cases”, the evidence that is always presented as “proof” of ghosts (earthbound spirits of our departed loved ones) include things such as:

*EVP recordings (having to trust in what the spirits tell them)
*Photographs of paranormal anomalies (familiar spirits can “appear” as ghost)
*Temperature readings of the area during the investigation.
*EMF readings (again, this can be manipulated by demonic spirits)
*Video footage of paranormal activity.
*Information given through a medium or psychic. (Demonic spirits are known to do this, as even many in the paranormal/psychic community agree that these occurrences do happen at times, but they deny the possibility that this is perhaps always the case.)

All of the types of evidence above, are determined by using our natural senses.

But where the deception comes in is this… when we determine the presence of a “spirit”, we do not have the “natural” ability to distinguish whether the spirit is that of a deceased loved one, or if the spirit is truly demonic. And we cannot go by our own “feelings” either, as the Bible tells us:

Proverbs 14:12 KJV
[12] There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

Jeremiah 17:9 KJV
[9] The heart is deceitful above all things , and desperately wicked: who can know it?

Proverbs 3:5 KJV
[5] Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

Therefore, we must seek God’s word, and what he says. His word tells us,

2 Corinthians 5:8 KJV
[8] We are confident, I say , and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

It also says, Hebrews 9:27 KJV
[27] And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Luke 16:22-31 KJV
[22] And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; [23] And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. [24] And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. [25] But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. [26] And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. [27] Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father’s house: [28] For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. [29] Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. [30] And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. [31] And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

The scripture above, from Luke 16, is very clear. It tells us that immediately, when we die, we are either carried by angels to heaven, or we will lift up our eyes being in everlasting torment. It also tells us that there is a great gulf “fixed” in place, so that anyone in heaven or hell cannot leave.

And most importantly, this scripture tells us that God will not allow one to come back from the dead, even if it is to warn others. And if God were to have any exceptions to this rule, it would definitely be for the gospels sake, as there is not a more important message than the gospel.

A9C83DA3-6200-4AD0-AAC8-59B92A7563FD.jpeg

Testing The Spirits:

Humans are limited, having to depend on our natural senses. We have a “flawed” nature. Naturally, we determine truth by our “experiences”, through our 5 senses. Some people believe in a 6th sense, but this “sense”, is something that cannot be explained naturally. This phenomenon is supernatural, and actually comes from the spiritual realm.

But we must take caution, as there is no true way to determine scientifically/naturally, if it comes from God, or if it comes from the demonic realm. God gives “believers” different gifts. But these gifts are from the Holy Spirit. One of those gifts are “discerning of spirits”. But the “test” that the individual would do, would be to test the situation or the information given, by the Word of God. Does the information given line up with scripture.

Many people believe that “discerning of spirits” is the distinguishment of whether a spirit is a trapped “human” spirit, or a demonic spirit. But this idea is not biblical as it is not found in  scripture! Rather, it is used to distinguish between teachers who are empowered by Holy Spirit or teachers empowered by unholy spirits/demons… spirit of antichrist.

For example, if a spirit appeared to someone, and claimed to be the spirit of a small child, immediately, the person would know this isn’t possible, because the Bible clearly tells us that spirits cannot leave heaven or hell for unresolved issues. So the person would know that this is a familiar spirit.

1 John 4:1-6 KJV
[1] Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. [2] Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: [3] And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. [4] Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. [5] They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. [6] We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

If for any reason, you believe the spirits of our departed loved ones are indeed still here with us, please do this one thing. “Test the spirits”, to see if they are of God or not. We need to compare the situation and what is being said, with scripture! And if for some reason, you have an “encounter” with a spirit, you can ask the spirit, “Do you believe that Jesus Christ came in the flesh, and that He died on the cross and rose again from the dead? And see what the spirit tells you. And then, command any, and all evil spirits to leave in the name of Jesus!

If you do these things, be rest assured, you will find out the true identity of these demonic spirits, that are masquerading as our deceased loved ones.

When people test these spirits this way, the reactions of these spirits  and thier submission to the name of Jesus is usually all it takes, as this is proof of the authority and power of Jesus Christ,  and the true identity of these demonic spirits!

F2F0AC20-DC8E-47E9-A8B4-8D902C7515D1.jpeg

Seeking first the kingdom of God,

Dana Emanuel, Deliverance Minister

https://exposingtheenemy77072127.wordpress.com/2017/12/05/spirit-communication-a-demonic-invitation-1/

Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/ExposingtheEnemy
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ExposingtheEnemy
Dana’s testimony on the Patrick Meechan program can be heard here:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/kapowradioshow/2013/01/10/patrick-meechan-program-1 

___________                    ~0~                  ____________

Many thanks for taking time to read and share the above post. For similar posts please visit Laura’s blog Our Spiritual Quest.

DISCLAIMER:

Laura Maxwell does not necessarily agree with all the information and conclusions presented by friends, guest articles on her blog, TV or radio interviews or her own radio show.

Laura is not paid for writing in books, magazines or appearing on TV, radio or at events. All of her work is of a voluntary nature.

 

Click on this LINK to see some of her TV interviews.

LIVE on Revelation TV – Airs by satellite across Europe, USA and beyond. Plus online.

Posted in Challenge & Test The Spirits!, Channeling, Dead People, Deliverance, Divination, Ghost Hunting, Guest Articles, Hauntings, Heaven, Heaven and Hell, Mediums, Necromancy, Occult, Paranormal, Poltergeists, Reincarnation, Residual Energies, Seance, sleep paralysis, Spirits & Ghosts, Spiritual Warfare, Spiritualism, Summoning Spirits, Supernatural, Table Tipping, Tarot Cards, Testimonies, The New Age, The Ouija Board, Truth Seeker, Whistleblowers | Tagged , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | Leave a comment

Historical Evidence That Jesus was Crucified and Rose From The Dead by James Bishop.|

From the empty tomb, to the post-mortem appearances, to the conversions and convictions of skeptics who claimed to have seen the risen Christ, here is a look at the historical evidence for the resurrection of Jesus. (Shared by Steven Bancarz).

He Is Risen: Historical Evidence That Jesus Rose From The Dead

Jesus leaves tomb

He Is Risen: Historical Evidence That Jesus Rose From The Dead by James Bishop|

***

Did Jesus really rise from the dead?  Is there any evidence that this actually happened, or is this just a product of myth, legend, or religious wishful thinking?  As it turns out, the resurrection of Jesus is well supported by historical evidence and serves as the best explanation for the facts surrounding his life, death, and the emergence of early Christianity.

***

In this article we shall focus on New Testament Scholar Gary Habermas’ minimal facts approach (MFA). The MFA, explains Habermas, “considers only those data that are so strongly attested historically that they are granted by nearly every scholar who studies the subject, even the rather skeptical ones” (1).

This comes after Habermas has sifted through some 3000 peer reviewed academic articles penned in several languages. Having done so Habermas identifies 12 such facts (2) (3) but we shall focus only on four that are needed to make the case for Christ:

  • Jesus’ crucifixion.
  • Jesus’ burial.
  • Jesus’ empty tomb.
  • Jesus’ post mortem appearances that convinced Paul, James and the disciples that he had been raised from the dead.

General Reliability

Since we will review the New Testament I want to make the case that we can trust them as historical documents. We won’t assume that the biblical texts are inspired or that they are inerrant. We shall simply approach the New Testament as basic historical documents. As I have argued before there are six main areas we will focus on (4).

The gospels are our primary sources for learning about Jesus. Contemporary critical New Testament historian and professor of Religious Studies Bart Ehrman affirms we can make use of the “New Testament Gospels.” He explains that doing so “is not for religious or theological reasons… these alone can be trusted. It is for historical reasons, pure and simple” (5).

IN AGREEMENT PROFESSOR RICHARD BURRIDGE CLAIMS THAT WHEN “JUDGED BY THE CRITERIA OF THE 1ST CENTURY AND I THINK THEY [GOSPELS] ARE PRETTY RELIABLE DOCUMENTS” (6).

It is thus not disputed that the gospels do, to a greater or lesser extent, give us good historical information on Jesus.

Such a position is strengthened since consensus today (10) holds the gospels to be the “genre of biographies” (7), “ancient biographies” (8), and “as modified ancient biographies” (9). This important fact conveys to us the author’s motive, namely to provide an account of what really happened.

Historians note that archaeology supports the gospel accounts which goes a long way in demonstrating that they are grounded within history. There are many such confirmations concerning the gospels, as Distinguished Professor Craig Evans explains,

“MATTHEW, MARK, LUKE, JOHN, THE BOOK OF ACTS—THESE ARE THE BASIC NARRATIVE BOOKS OF THE NEW TESTAMENT. THEY TALK ABOUT REAL PEOPLE, REAL EVENTS, REAL PLACES, AND THE ARCHAEOLOGIST CAN SHOW THAT” (11).

Scholar Paul Johnson agrees writing that “Historians note that mounting evidence from archaeology confirms rather than contradicts the accounts of Jesus” (12). Then historians have extra-biblical affirmation of gospel events, as historian Habermas explains, “When the combined evidence from ancient sources is summarized, quite an impressive amount of information is gathered concerning Jesus and ancient Christianity” (13).

peter

Moreover, general reliability is further enhanced by manuscript attestation. We have over 5000 copies in the original language of Greek (14) which surpasses anything else we have from other ancient Greco-Roman works. Habermas captures this well:

“What is usually meant is that the New Testament has far more manuscript evidence from a far earlier period than other classical works. There are just under 6000 NT manuscripts, with copies of most of the NT dating from just 100 years or so after its writing…In this regard, the classics are not as well attested. While this doesn’t guarantee truthfulness, it means that it is much easier to reconstruct the New Testament text” (15).

Then equally as important is the earliness of our textual evidence. Our entire New Testament dates prior to the end of the 1st century. Jesus died around 30 AD, and most scholars date our gospels from 60 to 95 AD whereas Paul’s letters date even earlier from the 50s onwards. This means that what we have is 1st century testimony to the life of Jesus.

Scholar Mike Bird argues that this is early especially in “comparison to other historical figures” (16). Professor Craig Keener explains that “Gospel materials written within four decades of Jesus’ execution therefore provide a remarkably special opportunity for early insight into Jesus’ ministry” (17).

Scholar Dan Wallace claims that “it cannot be denied as a fact of history that these gospels are our earliest witnesses to what Christians in the first century believed” (18). Scholars also demonstrate that we can actually get back earlier than that 70 AD mark when we analyze the traditions behind our gospels.

The Minimal Facts

We shall work from the basis that historians usually accept two independent sources confirming an event of history to be likely historical (19). I shall also make reference to the Criterion of Authenticity (CoA). CoA is a tool historians use that assigns probability to the deeds and sayings of Jesus, and, of course, the greater the probability the more confident we can be in an alleged saying or event (27). Of the CoA we shall focus on (28):

  1. Independent & early attestation: Event appears in multiple sources which are near to the time at which it is alleged to have occurred.
  2. Embarrassment: Event is awkward or counter-productive for the persons who serve as the source of information. It is highly unlikely to have simply been made up.
  3. Enemy attestation: Event is attested to by enemies which gives it a high probability.

That being said, let’s look at the four minimalist facts agreed upon by the vast majority of New Testament scholars today.

1. Jesus’ death by crucifixion

jesus-diedNo serious historian doubts that Jesus was crucified. According to Professor James Dunn the crucifixion of “Jesus command[s] almost universal assent” and “is impossible to doubt or deny” (20). Agnostic Professor Bart Ehrman agrees that it “is one of the most secure facts we have about his life” (21).

In The Historical Jesus: Lecture Transcript and Course Guidebook, 2000, Ehrman says:

“ONE OF THE MOST CERTAIN FACTS OF HISTORY IS THAT JESUS WAS CRUCIFIED ON ORDERS OF THE ROMAN PREFECT OF JUDEA, PONTIUS PILATE”. (P. 162)

Professor Luke Johnson says the evidence “is overwhelming” (22).  Atheist Professor of Early Christianity and the University of Gottinggen Gerd Ludemann says:

“JESUS’ DEATH AS A CONSEQUENCE OF CRUCIFIXION IS INDISPUTABLE”. IN THE RESURRECTION OF CHRIST: A HISTORICAL INQUIRY2004, P 50

Skeptical historian John Dominic Crossan says he takes it “absolutely for granted” (23), Borg calls it “so probable as to be certain” (24), and Paula Frederickson says it “is the single strongest fact we have about Jesus” (25).

Sources for the crucifixion

The crucifixion is independently attested in no less than 11 independent sources from both within and outside of the New Testament: Pre-Mark Passion Narrative, Q, John, Paul, Hebrews, 1 Peter 2:24, Clement of Rome, Ignatius, Martyr, Josephus Flavius, & Cornelius Tacitus. Pre-Mark and Q are very early dating to within years of the actual crucifixion.

Other later, less valuable, sources such as Lucian, Mesa Bar Serapion (depends on dating), Thallus and the Talmud all affirm a constant tradition of Jesus’ crucifixion (26). The crucifixion also passes the CoA. It is early and multiply attested (29), passes the criterion of embarrassment (30) (31), coherence (32), as well as being archaeologically consistent (33). Gospel crucifixion details also match what we know from contemporary medical science which gives them credibility (33) (34).

2. Jesus Burial

Consensus affirms Jesus’ burial. In accordance to CoA it is early and multiply attested. It is affirmed within an early pre-Pauline creed that Paul received less than five years after Jesus’ crucifixion (35). Habermas explains that these creeds “preserve some of the earliest reports concerning Jesus from about AD 30-50” (36).

The burial is further attested in Mark’s Pre-Passion Narrative material which, according to theologian and philosopher William Craig, “is a very early source which is probably based on eyewitness testimony and dates to within several years of Jesus’ crucifixion” (37). Professor Richard Bauckham also dates it prior to 40 AD and probably “goes back to the Jerusalem church” (38).

This is powerful early and independent evidence. The burial is further independently attested to by unique material M & L, Acts and John. In total we have six independent sources with several that are very early attesting to Jesus’ burial.

According to John Robinson the burial is one of “the earliest and best-attested facts about Jesus” (39). Moreover, the burial is enemy attested. The religious Jewish enemies of Jesus accused the disciples of stealing Jesus’ body from the tomb according to Matthew 28:13, Martyr (Dialogue with Tryphyo, 108), and Tertullian (De Spectaculis, 30). Such an accusation assumes that Jesus was buried within the tomb and that it was found empty.

3. Jesus’ tomb was found empty

Fact three is the exception since it is affirmed by roughly 75% of scholars as opposed to 99% upwards. However, that is still a majority as Habermas explains,

“…A STRONG MAJORITY OF CONTEMPORARY CRITICAL SCHOLARS SEEMS TO SUPPORT… THAT JESUS WAS BURIED IN A TOMB THAT WAS SUBSEQUENTLY DISCOVERED TO BE EMPTY” (40).

Firstly, it is implied in the early pre-Pauline creed of 1 Corinthians 15:1-11 as William Craig notes, “For in saying that Jesus died – was buried – was raised – appeared, one automatically implies that the empty grave has been left behind” (41).

Secondly, Christianity would have hit a wall if the tomb wasn’t actually empty. The easiest way to disprove the early Christian message of a resurrected saviour would be to go to the tomb where Jesus was laid, and expose it. Paul Althaus explains the resurrection proclamation “could not have been maintained in Jerusalem for a single day, for a single hour, if the emptiness of the tomb had not been established as a fact for all concerned” (42).

Thirdly, it is remarkable that even the Jewish authories (the enemies of the disciples) themselves acknolwedged the tomb as found empty in.

Evidence found in Matthew 28:11-15 and reports by Justin Martyr and Tertullian tells us that the Jewish leaders tried to explain that the tomb was empty because Jesus’ disciples stole his body. This suggests that the Jewish authorities acknowledged the fact that Jesus’ body was no longer in the tomb.

They didn’t object to the tomb being empty, they tried to explain this fact away, which suggests to us it really was empty.  This is positive evidence from a hostile sources, suggesting to us that the tomb was genuinely empty.

Fourthly, that Jesus’ women followers were the first to discover the empty tomb passes the criterion of embarrassment, as Chris Price illumines that “In light of this cultural context, if you are going to create a story about an empty tomb you don’t make women the first eyewitnesses. This is a counterproductive detail included by the writer simply because he was committed to telling the truth” (43).

According to scholar D. H. Van Daalen (1972):

“IT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO OBJECT TO THE EMPTY TOMB ON HISTORICAL GROUNDS; THOSE WHO DENY IT DO SO ON THE BASIS OF THEOLOGICAL OR PHILOSOPHICAL ASSUMPTIONS”

It also boasts independent attestation. It is early and independently attested in 1 Cor. 15:1-11 and the Pre-Markan Passion Narrative (44). It is also attested in the synoptics (Mark, Matthew, Luke) and John. That is four independent sources as Habermas notes:

“[THE] EMPTY TOMB IS REPORTED IN AT LEAST THREE, IF NOT FOUR, OF THESE GOSPEL SOURCES” WHICH IS WHY IT IS “TAKEN SO SERIOUSLY BY CONTEMPORARY CRITICAL SCHOLARS” (45).

It was also part of the early Christian preaching in Acts (3:29-31 & 36-37 ) and is likewise enemy attested (46).  Click here for an article on the historical evidence for the empty tomb.

4. Jesus’ post mortem appearances to believers and unbelievers

Consensus holds that James, Paul and the disciples had resurrection experiences of Jesus.  According to atheist historian Gerd Ludemann:

“IT MAY BE TAKEN AS HISTORICALLY CERTAIN THAT PETER AND THE DISCIPLES HAD EXPERIENCES AFTER JESUS’S DEATH IN WHICH JESUS APPEARED TO THEM AS THE RISEN CHRIST” (47).

Agnostic historian James Crossley says it is “the hardest, best evidence we have” (48), and professor Ehrman calls it “a historical fact” (49).  Agnostic New Testament scholar Ed Parish Sanders says:

“THAT JESUS’ FOLLOWERS (AND LATER PAUL) HAD RESURRECTION EXPERIENCES IS, IN MY JUDGMENT, A FACT. WHAT THE REALITY WAS THAT GAVE RISE TO THE EXPERIENCES I DO NOT KNOW.” – SANDERS, E. 1995. THE HISTORICAL FIGURE OF JESUS.

For more academic recognition of the resurrection appearances, here is an article containing 38 scholar quotes on these appearances.  All four gospels independently attest to the resurrection. The appearance to Peter is independently attested by Luke, and the appearance to the Twelve by Luke and John.

We also have independent witness to Galilean appearances in Mark, Matthew, and John, as well as to the women in Matthew and John (50). It’s further attested in Paul’s early creed (1 Cor. 15:1-11), in Paul’s authentic & disputed epistles, as well as hypothetical source Q and the book of Acts.

The early creed is most significant since it records that Peter, the twelve disciples, 500 witnesses, James, and lastly Paul had experiences of the risen Jesus. Moreover, Clement of Rome provides 1st century and Polycarp early 2nd century supporting evidence of the resurrection appearances. Both Clement and Polycarp knew the disciples which gives their testimonies credibility.

Moreover, the disciples, James and Paul were sincere in the proclamation of the risen Jesus as affirmed by nine early and independent sources. Before his conversion, Paul persecuted the early church until Jesus appeared to him personally (51). James was Jesus’ unbelieving brother who was likewise convinced on the basis of a resurrection appearance (52).

We also know of 11 sources that inform us of the disciples’ early proclamation of the resurrection and their willingness to suffer and die for it (53). Finally, we know that the early Christians Paul, James (Jesus’ brother), James (brother of John), Stephen, and Peter were all martyred for their belief in the risen Jesus.

Moreover, these appearances cannot be explained away as hallucinations since Paul believed in Jesus’ physical resurrection (54), the risen Jesus ate fish (Luke 24:42), offered his disciples an opportunity to touch his resurrection body (Luke 24:39John 20:27), had some grab hold of his feet in worship (Matt. 28:9), and the disciple Thomas allegedly put his finger and hand into the place where the nails had been in Jesus’ body (John 20:27). According to exegete Craig William Craig explains, “we have a completely unanimous testimony in the Gospels that all of them were physical” (55).

“NONE OF THESE FEATURES [HALLUCINATIONS] ADEQUATELY DESCRIBE THE NEW TESTAMENT EXPERIENCES.” – J.P MORELAND (56)

“Although at least a few if not all of Jesus’ disciples may have been in an emotional state that rendered them candidates for a hallucination, the nature of some of the experiences of the risen Jesus, specifically those that occurred in group settings and to Jesus’ enemy Paul, and the empty tomb strongly suggest that these experiences were not hallucinations.” – New Testament historian Mike Licona (57)

What is the best explanation of these facts?

“JESUS’ RESURRECTION IS UNPARALLELED IN TERMS OF STRONG EVIDENCE.” – MICHAEL LICONA (58)

Jesus appeared to believers and unbelievers, indoors and outdoors, to crowds and individuals, not once but many times.  It is recognized by even the most critical scholars that such appearances really did happen.  The real question is, why did skeptics in the first century all of a sudden come to believe that they saw Jesus standing right in front of them in the flesh after he had already been crucified?

Here is a man seen working miracles, controlling the forces of nature, healing the sick, proclaiming to be divine with authority from Heaven, and predicting his own death and resurrection.  His tomb was found empty on the morning of the third day after his crucifixion, and then he was seen risen appearing to people (including 500 at once) causing them to believe (to the point of death) that Jesus had really appeared to them.

“Typical encounters with the recently deceased do not issue in claims about an empty tomb, nor do they lead to the founding of a new religion. And they certainly do not typically eat and drink, and they are not seen by crowds of up to five hundred people.” – New Testament scholar Dale Allison (59)

5. The conversions of the early Jews to Christians

Not to mention, the disciples believed Jesus had appeared to the them so fervently that they were willing to forsake their lives and be imprisoned, tortured, and executed for this belief.  Let’s take James, the brother of Jesus for example.

James denied that his brother was divine. This is independently attested in Mark (3:21; 6:2-4, 6) and John (7:5; 19:25-27). James only came to believe in his divinity after he had Jesus appear to him after his crucifixion (1 Cor. 15:3-7).  As atheist historian Gerd Luddeman says:

“JAMES HAD NO RELIGIOUS LINK WITH HIS BROTHER DURING JESUS’ LIFETIME.” (60)

James then became an early leader in the church (Galatians 1, Acts 15), and was then stoned to death for his new found faith in Jesus Christ.  As Jewish historian Josephus writes, “the brother of Jesus, who was called the Christ…was delivered to be stoned”. (61) James’ stoning is confirmed in at least three other ancient sources.

So here was a skeptic, an unbeliever who was radically transformed, who became an elder in the church, and was stoned to death for his conviction that Jesus had appeared to him. This kind of conversion is best explained by a simple fact: James had an experience of Jesus after his crucifixion that so convinced him that he was willing to risk his life for such a belief.

Conclusion

What is the best explanation for these facts surrounding the life and death of Jesus? How can we account for the impact of Jesus ministry, his miracle working, his empty tomb, his post-mortem appearances, and the radical conversion of the early disciples?

The explanation with the most explanatory scope (which simply means to say explains the most facts) is that God really had raised Jesus Christ from the dead.

“THAT IS WHY, AS A HISTORIAN, I CANNOT EXPLAIN THE RISE OF EARLY CHRISTIANITY UNLESS JESUS ROSE AGAIN, LEAVING AN EMPTY TOMB BEHIND HIM.” N.T. WRIGHT (62)

References.
1. Habermas, G. & Licona, M. 2004. The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus. p. 44.
2. Habermas, G. 2012. The Minimal Facts Approach to the Resurrection of Jesus: The Role of Methodology as a Crucial Component in Establishing Historicity. Available.
3. 12 Historical Facts (Most Critical Scholars Believe These 12 Items)Available.
4. Bishop, J. 2016. The General Reliability of the GospelsAvailable.
5. Ehrman, Bart. 2008. The New Testament. p. 229.
6. Burridge, R. 2013. All Four One And One For All. Available.
7. Stanton, G. 2004. Jesus and Gospel. p. 192.
8. Dunn, J. 2003. Jesus Remembered: Christianity in the Making. p. 185.
9. Cornerstone Institute. New Testament Studies. 2015.
10. Keener, C. 2009. Will the Real Historical Jesus Please Stand Up? The Gospels as Sources for Historical Information about Jesus. Available.
11. Evans, C. Interview: Is the Bible Reliable? Available.
12. Johnson, P. 1986. A Historian Looks at Jesus (Speech).
13. Habermas, G. 1996. The Historical Jesus:  Ancient Evidence for the Life of Christ. p. 219.
14. Elliott, K. & Moir, I. 2000. Manuscripts and the Text of the New Testament. p. 1.
15. Habermas, G. Dr. Habermas Answers Important QuestionsAvailable.
16. Bird, M. 2014. Yes Jesus existed… but relax, you can still be an atheist if you want toAvailable.
17. Keener, C. 2009. Will the Real Historical Jesus Please Stand Up? The Gospels as Sources for Historical Information about Jesus. Available.
18. Wallace, D. 2010. Dethroning Jesus: Exposing Popular Culture’s Quest to Unseat the Biblical Christ. p. 100.
19. Craig, W. 2009. Independent Sources for Jesus’ Burial and Empty Tomb. Available.
20. Dunn, J. 2003. Jesus Remembered: Christianity in the Making. p. 339.
21. Ehrman, B. Why Was Jesus Killed? Available.
22. Johnson, L. 1996. The Real Jesus. p. 125.
23. Ludemann, G. 2004. The Resurrection of Christ. p. 50.
24. Crossan quoted by Stewart, R. & Habermas, G. in Memories of Jesus. p. 282.
25. Paula Frederickson, remark during discussion at the meeting of “The Historical Jesus” section at the annual meeting of the Society of Biblical Literature, November 22, 1999.
26. Habermas, G. & Licona, M. 2004. The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus. p. 50.
27. Bishop, J. 2016. The Historical Jesus and the Criteria of AuthenticityAvailable.
28. Craig, W. 2013. A Reasonable Response. Also see, Craig, W. 2014. Gospel Authorship – Who Cares? Available.
29. Craig, W. The Resurrection of Jesus. Available.
30. Hengel, M. 1977. Crucifixion. According to Hengel: “The social stigma and disgrace associated with crucifixion in the Roman world can hardly be overstated.”
31. Craig, W. 2013. Stephen Law on the Non-existence of Jesus of Nazareth. Available.
32. Wallace, D. 2010. Dethroning Jesus: Exposing Popular Culture’s Quest to Unseat the Biblical Christ. p. 109.
33. Edwards, W. 1986. Journal of the American Medical Association. p. 1463.
34. Bishop, J. 2015. Jesus Fact #2 – The Piercing of Jesus’ Side and Medical Science.Available.
35. Ludemann, G. 1994. The Resurrection of Jesus: History, Experience, Theology. p. 38.
36. Habermas, G. 1996. The Historical Jesus:  Ancient Evidence for the Life of Christ. p. 143
37. Craig, W. 2009. Independent Sources for Jesus’ Burial and Empty Tomb. Available.
38. Bauckham, R. 2008. Jesus and the Eyewitnesses: The Gospels as Eyewitness Testimony. p. 243.
39. Robinson, J. 1973. The Human Face of God. p. 131.
40. Habermas, G. The Empty Tomb of Jesus. Available:
41. Craig, W. The Historicity of the Empty Tomb of Jesus. Available.
42. Althaus, P. quoted by Dale Allison in: Resurrecting Jesus: The Earliest Christian Tradition and Its Interpreters. 2005. p. 317.
43. Price, C. 2015. Resurrection: Making Sense of Historical DataAvailable.
44. Exploring Biblical Greek. 30-60 AD – Pre-Markan Passion NarrativeAvailable.
45. Habermas, G. 2005. Recent Perspectives on the Reliability of the Gospels.Available.
46. Flowers, D. 2013. The Resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth. Available
47. Ludemann, G. 1995. What Really Happened? p. 80.
48. Crossley, J. 2015. Unbelievable? New Testament Q&A – Gary Habermas & James Crossley.
49. Ehrman, B. 1999. Jesus: Apocalyptic Prophet of the New Millennium. p. 231.
50. Craig, W. The Resurrection of Jesus. Available.
51. Ehrman, B. 2006. Peter, Paul, and Mary Magdalene: The Followers of Jesus in History and Legend. p. 101.
52. Habermas, G. 2003. The Risen Jesus and Future Hope. p. 22.
53. Sources: Luke, Paul, Josephus, Clement of Rome, Clement of Alexandria, Polycarp, Ignatius, Dionysius of Corinth, Tertullian, Origen, and Hegesippus.
54. Bock, D. & Wallace, D. 2010. Dethroning Jesus: Exposing Popular Culture’s Quest to Unseat the Biblical Christ. p. 208.
55. Craig, W2008. Reasonable Faith. p. 383.
56. Moreland, J. 1987. Scaling the Secular City: a Defense of Christianityp. 177.
57. Licona, M. 2010. “Were the Resurrection Appearances of Jesus Hallucinations?” inEvidence for God: 50 Arguments for Faith from the Bible, History, Philosophy and Science. p. 178.
58. Michael Licona quoted by William Lane Craig’s in Dealing with doubt. Available.
59. Allison, D. 2005. Resurrecting Jesus: The Earliest Christian Tradition and its Interpreters. p. 283-284.
60. Ludemann, G. The Resurrection of Jesus: History, Experience, Theology. 1994. p. 109.
61. Josephus, F. 95 AD. Antiquities, 20.9.1.
62. Wright, N. 1993. “The New Unimproved Jesus” in Christianity Today. p. 26.

*This article was edited and added to from the original by by Steven Bancarz of REASONSFORJESUS.COM

http://reasonsforjesus.com/risen-historical-evidence-jesus-rose-dead/

 ___________                    ~0~                  ____________

Many thanks for taking time to read and share the above post. For similar posts please visit Laura’s blog Our Spiritual Quest.

 

DISCLAIMER:

Laura Maxwell does not necessarily agree with all the information and conclusions presented by friends, guest articles on her blog, TV or radio interviews or her own radio show.

Laura is not paid for writing in books, magazines or appearing on TV, radio or at events. All of her work is of a voluntary nature.

Click on this LINK to see some of her TV interviews.

LIVE on Revelation TV – Airs by satellite across Europe, USA and beyond. Plus online.

 

Posted in Apologetics, Apostasy, Debunking Athiesm, Evidence for Jesus and The Bible, Guest Articles, Online Article, Testimonies, The Truth Movement, Truth Seeker, Whistleblowers | Tagged , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | Leave a comment

Evidence for Jesus Outside the Bible by J. Warner Wallace.

Is There Any Evidence for Jesus Outside the Bible? By J. Warner Wallace

J Warner Wallace

J. Warner Wallace is a Cold-Case Detective, Senior Fellow at the Colson Center for Christian Worldview, Adjunct Professor of Apologetics at Biola, and Author of Cold-Case Christianity, God’s Crime Scene, and Forensic Faith.

***

The reliable Gospel eyewitness accounts aren’t the only ancient description of Jesus. There are also non-Christian descriptions of Jesus from the late 1st to 5th Century. What do the non-Biblical accounts say about Jesus and how are we to assess them? It’s been my experience that two people can examine the same event (or even the same historical character) and disagree about what they have seen.

***

Many years ago President John F. Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas, and the entire event was captured on video tape. There were hundreds of eyewitnesses. The tapes were watched over and over again. Yet, in the midst of such a robust eyewitness record, people still argue to this day about what they saw and what actually happened. Was it a lone shooter or an elaborate conspiracy? Something very similar occurred when the World Trade Center was attacked by terrorists. Most of us either saw the attack live on television or watched the video for months afterward. But the event is still interpreted in a variety of ways. Was this the act of international terrorists or an elaborate
governmental conspiracy?
***
Two well documented historical events with a rich set of evidences. In spite of this, both events have been interpreted in a variety of ways. It shouldn’t surprise us then to find the historical records of Jesus Christ might also experience the same type of scrutiny and diverse interpretation. Did Jesus truly live, minister, died and rise from the grave as the Gospels record or was it an elaborate conspiracy?
***
One thing we know about the Kennedy assassination and the World Trade Center attack: regardless of interpretation, there were eyewitnesses to the events, and the events did truly occur. In a similar manner, the ancient evidence related to Jesus reveals there were eyewitnesses and He did exist in history. Is there any evidence for Jesus outside the Bible? Yes, and the ancient non-Christian interpretations (and critical commentaries) of the Gospel accounts serve to strengthen the core claims of the New Testament.
***

Hostile Non-Biblical Pagan Accounts
There are a number of ancient classical accounts of Jesus from pagan, non-Christian sources. These accounts are generally hostile to Christianity; some ancient authors denied the miraculous nature of Jesus and the events surrounding His life:

Thallus (52AD)
Thallus is perhaps the earliest secular writer to mention Jesus and he is so ancient his writings don’t even exist anymore. But Julius Africanus, writing around 221AD does quote Thallus who previously tried to explain away the darkness occurring at Jesus’ crucifixion:

“On the whole world there pressed a most fearful darkness; and the rocks were rent by an earthquake, and many places in Judea and other districts were thrown down. This darkness Thallus, in the third book of his History, calls, as appears to me without reason, an eclipse of the sun.” (Julius Africanus, Chronography, 18:1)

If only more of Thallus’ record could be found, we might find more confirmation of Jesus’ crucifixion. But there are some things we can conclude from this account: Jesus lived, He was crucified, and there was an earthquake and darkness at the point of His crucifixion.

Tacitus (56-120AD)
Cornelius Tacitus was known for his analysis and examination of historical documents and is among the most trusted of ancient historians. He was a senator under Emperor Vespasian and was also proconsul of Asia. In his “Annals’ of 116AD, he describes Emperor Nero’s response to the great fire in Rome and Nero’s claim that the Christians were to blame:

“Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular.”

In this account, Tacitus confirms several historical elements of the Biblical narrative: Jesus lived in Judea, was crucified under Pontius Pilate, and had followers who were persecuted for their faith in Christ.

Mara Bar-Serapion (70AD)
Sometime after 70AD, a Syrian philosopher named Mara Bar-Serapion, writing to encourage his son, compared the life and persecution of Jesus with that of other philosophers who were persecuted for their ideas. The fact Jesus is known to be a real person with this kind of influence is important. Mara Bar-Serapion refers to Jesus as the “Wise King”:

“What benefit did the Athenians obtain by putting Socrates to death? Famine and plague came upon them as judgment for their crime. Or, the people of Samos for burning Pythagoras? In one moment their country was covered with sand. Or the Jews by murdering their wise king?…After that their kingdom was abolished. God rightly avenged these men…The wise king…Lived on in the teachings he enacted.”

From this account, we can add to our understanding of Jesus: He was a wise and influential man who died for His beliefs. The Jewish leadership was somehow responsible for Jesus’ death. Jesus’ followers adopted His beliefs and lived their lives accordingly.

Phlegon (80-140AD)
In a manner similar to Thallus, Julius Africanus also mentions a historian named Phlegon who wrote a chronicle of history around 140AD. In this history, Phlegon also mentions the darkness surrounding the crucifixion in an effort to explain it:

“Phlegon records that, in the time of Tiberius Caesar, at full moon, there was a full eclipse of the sun from the sixth to the ninth hour.” (Africanus, Chronography, 18:1)

Phlegon is also mentioned by Origen (an early church theologian and scholar, born in Alexandria):

“Now Phlegon, in the thirteenth or fourteenth book, I think, of his Chronicles, not only ascribed to Jesus a knowledge of future events . . . but also testified that the result corresponded to His predictions.” (Origen Against Celsus, Book 2, Chapter 14)

“And with regard to the eclipse in the time of Tiberius Caesar, in whose reign Jesus appears to have been crucified, and the great earthquakes which then took place … ” (Origen Against Celsus, Book 2, Chapter 33)

“Jesus, while alive, was of no assistance to himself, but that he arose after death, and exhibited the marks of his punishment, and showed how his hands had been pierced by nails.” (Origen Against Celsus, Book 2, Chapter 59)

From these accounts, we can add something to our understanding: Jesus had the ability to accurately predict the future, was crucified under the reign of Tiberius Caesar and demonstrated His wounds after he was resurrected.

Pliny the Younger (61-113AD)
Early Christians were also described in early, non-Christian history. Pliny the Younger, in a letter to the Roman emperor Trajan, describes the lifestyles of early Christians:

“They (the Christians) were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verses a hymn to Christ, as to a god, and bound themselves by a solemn oath, not to any wicked deeds, but never to commit any fraud, theft or adultery, never to falsify their word, nor deny a trust when they should be called upon to deliver it up; after which it was their custom to separate, and then reassemble to partake of food—but food of an ordinary and innocent kind.”

This early description of the first Christians documents several facts: the first Christians believed Jesus was GOD, the first Christians upheld a high moral code, and these early followers met regularly to worship Jesus.

Suetonius (69-140AD)
Suetonius was a Roman historian and annalist of the Imperial House under the Emperor Hadrian. His writings about Christians describe their treatment under the Emperor Claudius (41-54AD):

“Because the Jews at Rome caused constant disturbances at the instigation of Chrestus (Christ), he (Claudius) expelled them from the city (Rome).” (Life of Claudius, 25:4)

This expulsion took place in 49AD, and in another work, Suetonius wrote about the fire which destroyed Rome in 64 A.D. under the reign of Nero. Nero blamed the Christians for this fire and he punished Christians severely as a result:

“Nero inflicted punishment on the Christians, a sect given to a new and mischievous religious belief.” (Lives of the Caesars, 26.2)

There is much we can learn from Suetonius as it is related to the life of early Christians. From this account, we know Jesus had an immediate impact on His followers: They were committed to their belief Jesus was God and withstood the torment and punishment of the Roman Empire. Jesus had a curious and immediate impact on His followers, empowering them to die courageously for what they knew to be true.

Lucian of Samosata: (115-200 A.D.)
Lucian was a Greek satirist who spoke sarcastically of Christ and Christians, but in the process, he did affirm they were real people and never referred to them as fictional characters:

“The Christians, you know, worship a man to this day—the distinguished personage who introduced their novel rites, and was crucified on that account….You see, these misguided creatures start with the general conviction that they are immortal for all time, which explains the contempt of death and voluntary self-devotion which are so common among them; and then it was impressed on them by their original lawgiver that they are all brothers, from the moment that they are converted, and deny the gods of Greece, and worship the crucified sage, and live after his laws. All this they take quite on faith, with the result that they despise all worldly goods alike, regarding them merely as common property.” (Lucian, The Death of Peregrine. 11-13)

From this account we can add to our description of Jesus: He taught about repentance and about the family of God. These teachings were quickly adopted by Jesus’ followers and exhibited to the world around them.

Celsus (175AD)
This is the last hostile, non-Christian account we will examine (although there are many other later accounts in history). Celsus was quite antagonistic to the claims of the Gospels, but in his criticism he unknowingly affirmed and reinforced the Biblical authors and their content. His writing is extensive and he alludes to 80 different Biblical quotes, confirming their early appearance in history. In addition, he admits the miracles of Jesus were generally believed in the early 2nd century:

“Jesus had come from a village in Judea, and was the son of a poor Jewess who gained her living by the work of her own hands. His mother had been turned out of doors by her husband, who was a carpenter by trade, on being convicted of adultery [with a soldier named Panthéra (i.32)]. Being thus driven away by her husband, and wandering about in disgrace, she gave birth to Jesus, a bastard. Jesus, on account of his poverty, was hired out to go to Egypt. While there he acquired certain (magical) powers which Egyptians pride themselves on possessing. He returned home highly elated at possessing these powers, and on the strength of them gave himself out to be a god.”

Celsus admits Jesus was reportedly born of a virgin, but then argues this could supernatural account could not be possible and offers the idea Jesus was the illegitimate son of a man named Panthera (an idea borrowed from Jews who opposed Jesus at the time). But in writing this account, Celsus does confirm several important claims: Jesus had an earthly father who was a carpenter, possessed unusual magical powers and claimed to be God.

Hostile Non-Biblical Jewish Accounts
In addition to classical pagan sources chronicling the life of Jesus and His followers, there are also a number of ancient hostile Jewish sources describing Jesus. These are written by Jewish theologians, historians and leaders who were definitely not sympathetic to the Christian cause. Their writings are often very harsh, critical and even demeaning to Jesus. But there is still much these writings confirm:

Josephus (37-101AD)
In more detail than any other non-biblical historian, Josephus writes about Jesus in his “the Antiquities of the Jews” in 93AD. Josephus was born just four years after the crucifixion. He was a consultant for Jewish rabbis at an early age, became a Galilean military commander by the age of sixteen, and he was an eyewitness to much of what he recorded in the first century A.D. Under the rule of Roman emperor Vespasian, Josephus was allowed to write a history of the Jews. This history includes three passages about Christians, one in which he describes the death of John the Baptist, one in which he mentions the execution of James (and describes him as the brother of Jesus the Christ), and a final passage which describes Jesus as a wise man and the messiah. There is much legitimate controversy about the writing of Josephus, because the first discoveries of his writings are late enough to have been re-written by Christians who were accused of making additions to the text. So to be fair, we’ll examine a scholarly reconstruction stripped of Christian embellishment:

“Now around this time lived Jesus, a wise man. For he was a worker of amazing deeds and was a teacher of people who gladly accept the truth. He won over both many Jews and many Greeks. Pilate, when he heard him accused by the leading men among us, condemned him to the cross, (but) those who had first loved him did not cease (doing so). To this day the tribe of Christians named after him has not disappeared” (This neutral reconstruction follows closely the one proposed by John Meier, A Marginal Jew: Rethinking the Historical Jesus: The Roots of the Problem and the Person).

Now there are many other ancient versions of Josephus’ writing which are even more explicit about the nature of Jesus’ miracles, life and his status as the Christ, but let’s take this conservative version and see what we can learn. From this text, we can conclude: Jesus lived in Palestine, was a wise man and a teacher, worked amazing deeds, was accused by the Jews, crucified under Pilate and had followers called Christians.

Jewish Talmud (400-700AD)
While the earliest Talmudic writings of Jewish Rabbis appear in the 5th century, the tradition of these Rabbinic authors indicates they are faithfully transmitting teachings from the early “Tannaitic” period of the 1st Century BC to the 2nd Century AD. Scholars believe there are a number of Talmudic writings referring to Jesus, and many of these writings are said to use code words to describe Jesus (such as “Balaam” or “Ben Stada” or “a certain one”). But for our purposes we’ll be very conservative and limit our examination to the passages referring to Jesus in a more direct way:

“Jesus practiced magic and led Israel astray” (b. Sanhedrin 43a; cf. t. Shabbat 11.15; b. Shabbat 104b)

“Rabbi Hisda (d. 309) said that Rabbi Jeremiah bar Abba said, ‘What is that which is written, ‘No evil will befall you, nor shall any plague come near your house’? (Psalm 91:10)… ‘No evil will befall you’ (means) that evil dreams and evil thoughts will not tempt you; ‘nor shall any plague come near your house’ (means) that you will not have a son or a disciple who burns his food like Jesus of Nazareth.” (b. Sanhedrin 103a; cf. b. Berakhot 17b)

“Our rabbis have taught that Jesus had five disciples: Matthai, Nakai, Nezer, Buni and Todah. They brought Matthai to (to trial). He said, ‘Must Matthai be killed? For it is written, ‘When (mathai) shall I come and appear before God?’” (Psalm 92:2) They said to him, “Yes Matthai must be killed, for it is written, ‘When (mathai) he dies his name will perish’” (Psalm 41:5). They brought Nakai. He said to them, “Must Nakai be killed? For it is written, “The innocent (naqi) and the righteous will not slay’” (Exodus 23:7). They said to him, “Yes, Nakai must be kille, for it is written, ‘In secret places he slays the innocent (naqi)’” (Psalm 10:8). (b. Sanhedrin 43a; the passage continues in a similar way for Nezer, Buni and Todah)

And this, perhaps the most famous of Talmudic passages about Jesus:

“It was taught: On the day before the Passover they hanged Jesus. A herald went before him for forty days (proclaiming), “He will be stoned, because he practiced magic and enticed Israel to go astray. Let anyone who knows anything in his favor come forward and plead for him.” But nothing was found in his favor, and they hanged him on the day before the Passover. (b. Sanhedrin 43a)

From just these passages mentioning Jesus by name, we can conclude the following: Jesus had magical powers, led the Jews away from their beliefs, had disciples who were martyred for their faith (one of whom was named Matthai), and was executed on the day before the Passover.

The Toledot Yeshu (1000AD)
The Toledot Yeshu is a medieval Jewish retelling of the life of Jesus. It is completely anti-Christian, to be sure. There are many versions of these ‘retellings’, and as part of the transmitted oral and written tradition of the Jews, we can presume their original place in antiquity, dating back to the time of Jesus’ first appearance as an influential leader who was drawing Jews away from their faith in the Law. The Toledot Yeshu contains a determined effort to explain away the miracles of Jesus and to deny the virgin birth. In some places, the text is quite vicious, but it does confirm many elements of the New Testament writings. Let’s take a look at a portion of the text (Jesus is called ‘Yehoshua’):

“In the year 3671 (in Jewish reckonging, it being ca 90 B.C.) in the days of King Jannaeus, a great misfortune befell Israel, when there arose a certain disreputable man of the tribe of Judah, whose name was Joseph Pandera. He lived at Bethlehem, in Judah. Near his house dwelt a widow and her lovely and chaste daughter named Miriam. Miriam was betrothed to Yohanan, of the royal house of David, a man learned in the Torah and God-fearing. At the close of a certain Sabbath, Joseph Pandera, attractive and like a warrior in appearance, having gazed lustfully upon Miriam, knocked upon the door of her room and betrayed her by pretending that he was her betrothed husband, Yohanan.

Even so, she was amazed at this improper conduct and submitted only against her will. Thereafter, when Yohanan came to her, Miriam expressed astonishment at behavior so foreign to his character. It was thus that they both came to know the crime of Joseph Pandera and the terrible mistake on the part of Miriam… Miriam gave birth to a son and named him Yehoshua, after her brother. This name later deteriorated to Yeshu (“Yeshu” is the Jewish “name” for Jesus. It means “May His Name Be Blotted Out”). On the eighth day he was circumcised. When he was old enough the lad was taken by Miriam to the house of study to be instructed in the Jewish tradition. One day Yeshu walked in front of the Sages with his head uncovered, showing shameful disrespect. At this, the discussion arose as to whether this behavior did not truly indicate that Yeshu was an illegitimate child and the son of a niddah. Moreover, the story tells that while the rabbis were discussing the Tractate Nezikin, he gave his own impudent interpretation of the law and in an ensuing debate he held that Moses could not be the greatest of the prophets if he had to receive counsel from Jethro.

This led to further inquiry as to the antecedents of Yeshu, and it was discovered through Rabban Shimeon ben Shetah that he was the illegitimate son of Joseph Pandera. Miriam admitted it. After this became known, it was necessary for Yeshu to flee to Upper Galilee. After King Jannaeus, his wife Helene ruled over all Israel. In the Temple was to be found the Foundation Stone on which were engraven the letters of God’s Ineffable Name. Whoever learned the secret of the Name and its use would be able to do whatever he wished. Therefore, the Sages took measures so that no one should gain this knowledge. Lions of brass were bound to two iron pillars at the gate of the place of burnt offerings. Should anyone enter and learn the Name, when he left the lions would roar at him and immediately the valuable secret would be forgotten. Yeshu came and learned the letters of the Name; he wrote them upon the parchment which he placed in an open cut on his thigh and then drew the flesh over the parchment. As he left, the lions roared and he forgot the secret. But when he came to his house he reopened the cut in his flesh with a knife an lifted out the writing.

Then he remembered and obtained the use of the letters. He gathered about himself three hundred and ten young men of Israel and accused those who spoke ill of his birth of being people who desired greatness and power for themselves. Yeshu proclaimed, “I am the Messiah; and concerning me Isaiah prophesied and said, ‘Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.’” He quoted other messianic texts, insisting, “David my ancestor prophesied concerning me: ‘The Lord said to me, thou art my son, this day have I begotten thee.’” The insurgents with him replied that if Yeshu was the Messiah he should give them a convincing sign. They therefore, brought to him a lame man, who had never walked. Yeshu spoke over the man the letters of the Ineffable Name, and the leper was healed. Thereupon, they worshipped him as the Messiah, Son of the Highest. When word of these happenings came to Jerusalem, the Sanhedrin decided to bring about the capture of Yeshu. They sent messengers, Annanui and Ahaziah, who, pretending to be his disciples, said that they brought him an invitation from the leaders of Jerusalem to visit them. Yeshu consented on condition the members of the Sanhedrin receive him as a lord.

He started out toward Jerusalem and, arriving at Knob, acquired an ass on which he rode into Jerusalem, as a fulfillment of the prophecy of Zechariah. The Sages bound him and led him before Queen Helene, with the accusation: “This man is a sorcerer and entices everyone.” Yeshu replied, “The prophets long ago prophesied my coming: ‘And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse,’ and I am he; but as for them, Scripture says ‘Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly.’” Queen Helene asked the Sages: “What he says, is it in your Torah?” They replied: “It is in our Torah, but it is not applicable to him, for it is in Scripture: ‘And that prophet which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.’ He has not fulfilled the signs and conditions of the Messiah.” Yeshu spoke up: “Madam, I am the Messiah and I revive the dead.” A dead body was brought in; he pronounced the letters of the Ineffable Name and the corpse came to life. The Queen was greatly moved and said: “This is a true sign.” She reprimanded the Sages and sent them humiliated from her presence. Yeshu’s dissident followers increased and there was controversy in Israel. Yeshu went to Upper Galilee. the Sages came before the Queen, complaining that Yeshu practiced sorcery and was leading everyone astray.

Therefore she sent Annanui and Ahaziah to fetch him. The found him in Upper Galilee, proclaiming himself the Son of God. When they tried to take him there was a struggle, but Yeshu said to the men of Upper Galilee: “Wage no battle.” He would prove himself by the power which came to him from his Father in heaven. He spoke the Ineffable Name over the birds of clay and they flew into the air. He spoke the same letters over a millstone that had been placed upon the waters. He sat in it and it floated like a boat. When they saw this the people marveled. At the behest of Yeshu, the emissaries departed and reported these wonders to the Queen. She trembled with astonishment. Then the Sages selected a man named Judah Iskarioto and brought him to the Sanctuary where he learned the letters of the Ineffable Name as Yeshu had done. When Yeshu was summoned before the queen, this time there were present also the Sages and Judah Iskarioto. Yeshu said: “It is spoken of me, ‘I will ascend into heaven.’”

He lifted his arms like the wings of an eagle and he flew between heaven and earth, to the amazement of everyone…Yeshu was seized. His head was covered with a garment and he was smitten with pomegranate staves; but he could do nothing, for he no longer had the Ineffable Name. Yeshu was taken prisoner to the synagogue of Tiberias, and they bound him to a pillar. To allay his thirst they gave him vinegar to drink. On his head they set a crown of thorns. There was strife and wrangling between the elders and the unrestrained followers of Yeshu, as a result of which the followers escaped with Yeshu to the region of Antioch; there Yeshu remained until the eve of the Passover. Yeshu then resolved to go the Temple to acquire again the secret of the Name. That year the Passover came on a Sabbath day. On the eve of the Passover, Yeshu, accompanied by his disciples, came to Jerusalem riding upon an ass. Many bowed down before him. He entered the Temple with his three hundred and ten followers.

One of them, Judah Iskarioto apprised the Sages that Yeshu was to be found in the Temple, that the disciples had taken a vow by the Ten Commandments not to reveal his identity but that he would point him out by bowing to him. So it was done and Yeshu was seized. Asked his name, he replied to the question by several times giving the names Mattai, Nakki, Buni, Netzer, each time with a verse quoted by him and a counter-verse by the Sages. Yeshu was put to death on the sixth hour on the eve of the Passover and of the Sabbath. When they tried to hang him on a tree it broke, for when he had possessed the power he had pronounced by the Ineffable Name that no tree should hold him. He had failed to pronounce the prohibition over the carob-stalk, for it was a plant more than a tree, and on it he was hanged until the hour for afternoon prayer, for it is written in Scripture, “His body shall not remain all night upon the tree.” They buried him outside the city.

On the first day of the week his bold followers came to Queen Helene with the report that he who was slain was truly the Messiah and that he was not in his grave; he had ascended to heaven as he prophesied. Diligent search was made and he was not found in the grave where he had been buried. A gardener had taken him from the grave and had brought him into his garden and buried him in the sand over which the waters flowed into the garden. Queen Helene demanded, on threat of a severe penalty, that the body of Yeshu be shown to her within a period of three days. There was a great distress. When the keeper of the garden saw Rabbi Tanhuma walking in the field and lamenting over the ultimatum of the Queen, the gardener related what he had done, in order that Yeshu’s followers should not steal the body and then claim that he had ascended into heaven. The Sages removed the body, tied it to the tail of a horse and transported it to the Queen, with the words, “This is Yeshu who is said to have ascended to heaven.” Realizing that Yeshu was a false prophet who enticed the people and led them astray, she mocked the followers but praised the Sages.

Now in spite of the fact that the ancient Jews who wrote this did their best to argue for another interpretation of the life of Christ, they did make several claims here about Jesus. This passage, along with several others from the Toledot tradition, confirm: Jesus claimed to be the Messiah, healed the lame, said Isaiah foretold of His life, was worshipped as God, arrested by the Jews, beaten with rods, given vinegar to drink, wore a crown of thorns, rode into Jerusalem on a donkey, was betrayed by a man named Judah Iskarioto, and had followers who claimed He was resurrected and ascended, leaving an empty tomb.

Let’s review what we’ve learned from hostile pagan and Jewish sources describing Jesus. We’ll do our best to discount the anti-Christian bias we see in the sources, just as we discounted the pro-Christian bias we think might exist in some versions of the writing of Josephus. Many elements of the Biblical record are confirmed by these hostile accounts, in spite of the fact they deny the supernatural power of Jesus:

Jesus was born and lived in Palestine. He was born, supposedly, to a virgin and had an earthly father who was a carpenter. He was a teacher who taught that through repentance and belief, all followers would become brothers and sisters. He led the Jews away from their beliefs. He was a wise man who claimed to be God and the Messiah. He had unusual magical powers and performed miraculous deeds. He healed the lame. He accurately predicted the future. He was persecuted by the Jews for what He said, betrayed by Judah Iskarioto. He was beaten with rods, forced to drink vinegar and wear a crown of thorns. He was crucified on the eve of the Passover and this crucifixion occurred under the direction of Pontius Pilate, during the time of Tiberius. On the day of His crucifixion, the sky grew dark and there was an earthquake. Afterward, He was buried in a tomb and the tomb was later found to be empty. He appeared to His disciples resurrected from the grave and showed them His wounds. These disciples then told others Jesus was resurrected and ascended into heaven. Jesus’ disciples and followers upheld a high moral code. One of them was named Matthai. The disciples were also persecuted for their faith but were martyred without changing their claims. They met regularly to worship Jesus, even after His death.

Not bad, given this information is coming from ancient accounts hostile to the Biblical record. While these non-Christian sources interpret the claims of Christianity differently, they affirm the initial, evidential claims of the Biblical authors (much like those who interpret the evidence related to Kennedy’s assassination and the Twin Tower attacks come to different conclusions but affirm the basic facts of the historical events). Is there any evidence for Jesus outside the Bible? Yes, and the ancient non-Christian interpretations (and critical commentaries) of the Gospel accounts serve to strengthen the core claims of the New Testament. For more on this, please refer to Forensic Faith:

Image from Forensic Faith: A Homicide Detective Makes the Case for a More Reasonable, Evidential Christian Faith

J. Warner Wallace is a Cold-Case DetectiveChristian Case Maker, Senior Fellow at the Colson Center for Christian Worldview, and the author of Cold-Case ChristianityCold-Case Christianity for KidsGod’s Crime SceneGod’s Crime Scene for Kids, and Forensic Faith.

Comment or Subscribe to J. Warner’s Daily Email.

J Warner Wallace

Why Shouldn’t We Trust the Non-Canonical “Gospel of Truth”?

The Gospel of Truth is an ancient text (written in the form of a sermon) …

 ___________                    ~0~                  ____________

Many thanks for taking time to read and share the above post. For similar posts please visit Laura’s blog Our Spiritual Quest.

 

DISCLAIMER:

Laura Maxwell does not necessarily agree with all the information and conclusions presented by friends, guest articles on her blog, TV or radio interviews or her own radio show.

Laura is not paid for writing in books, magazines or appearing on TV, radio or at events. All of her work is of a voluntary nature.

Click on this LINK to see some of her TV interviews.

LIVE on Revelation TV – Airs by satellite across Europe, USA and beyond. Plus online.

Posted in Apologetics, Archaeology, Debunking Athiesm, Evidence for Jesus and The Bible, Guest Articles, Magazine Articles, Ministry Issues, Online Article, The Truth Movement, Truth Seeker, Welcome To This Blog! | Tagged , , , | 2 Comments

YouTube has deleted MORE of Laura Maxwell’s radio shows!!!

YouTube has deleted MORE of my radio shows.

These YT deletions weren’t due to copyright strikes. Weeks ago they highlighted videos saying they weren’t deemed suitable for YouTube. So I requested a review of that. They deleted them after reviewing them.

My views have continued to decrease anyway! Also folks tell me they try to ‘like’ my videos, then witness the ‘likes’ vanish before their eyes.  Nothing supernatural about that. It’s a YouTube tactic.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjxmO4cRpsL_g9pwR4sES4A

*** Help needed please friends! Can you please go and like some of my videos? Even watch one or two videos to help get the views back up? Perhaps even consider subscribing or sharing my videos on social media too? ***

Many thanks indeed! God bless you! Laura Maxwell

*****

A FASCINATING SHOW YOU WON’T WANT TO MISS!!!

DETAILS ABOUT THE SHOW:

The show will air this Friday at the new time of 7-8pm UK, 11-12 PST, 1-2pm CST, 2-3pm EST and repeat later on Friday at 11:30pm UK, 3:30pm PST, 5:30pm CST and 6:30pm EST.

It will also be REPEATED over the next two weeks on these days:

  1. Monday, Tuesday,Wednesday, Thursday and Friday at 11:30pm UK, 3:30pm PST, 5:30pm CST and 6:30pm EST.

To hear Laura’s show online at the above times, please visit Tune In Radio at http://tunein.com/radio/Eternal-Radio-s155805/

*****

You can also hear other great shows by a variety of presenters on Eternal Radio:

Listen On Tablet, On Smart TV and On Smartphone. Listen through a variety of listening platforms. Why not visit www.eternalradio.org.uk to find the best one for you? Or get the free ER listen app from Apple or Google Play. The app has other great features such as: social media integration and contact links all built in!

*****

ON DEMAND REPEATS

Eternal Radio upload a selection of their hosts’ shows to their YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpi3KidT55e2p-I92b1c3Jw

All of Laura’s shows can be heard on her YouTube Playlist. See below:

Programs may be subject to change – please check Eternal Radio’s Timetable at: http://www.eternalradio.org.uk/Timetable/

Eternal Radio Logo

More About Laura’s Radio Show:

For full details of Laura Maxwell’s show, please see her link.

Click this link for her Guest Schedule – For Archives and upcoming guests!

*****

Are your friends involved in paranormal or occult practises? If you care, please share my blog posts. Your silence is consent, so please expose demonic lies!

Spread truth – Christ’s love and goodness liberates those trapped in darkness, “… you will know the truth and The Truth shall set you free.”

Psalm 96:3 (NLT) ‘Publish his glorious deeds among the nations. Tell everyone about the amazing things He does.’

*****

Please pray for ‘The Supernatural with Laura Maxwell’, if you feel led. Please pray, those God wants to reach, through this show will hear it. My guests and myself would so appreciate your prayers too.

Many thanks indeed! All glory to God. God bless you!

*****

Disclaimer: Laura Maxwell does not necessarily agree with all the information and conclusions presented by friends, guest articles or other features on her blog or radio show!

*****

 

Posted in Church Issues, Dead People, Deliverance, Divination, Elite, Eternal Radio, Evidence for Jesus and The Bible, Facebook, Frequently Asked Questions, Ghost Hunting, Hauntings, Last Days, Luciferianism, Ministry Issues, Necromancy, New Age Luciferianism, New World Order, Occult, Paganism, Paranormal, Pleiadianism, Poltergeists, Radio Programs, Revelation TV, Secret Societies, Spirits & Ghosts, Spiritual Warfare, Spiritualism, Supernatural, Testimonies, The New Age, The Ouija Board, The Supernatural With Laura Maxwell, The Truth Movement, Truth Seeker, TV Programs, Welcome To This Blog!, Whistleblowers, Witchcraft, YouTube | Tagged , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | Leave a comment

♫ Laura Maxwell interviews Steven Bancarz – Famous New Age Guru Encounters The Presence Of Jesus.

Steven Bancarz was a famous and hugely influential New Ager and blogger of the incredibly popular sites Spirit Science and Metaphysics.com and thespiritscience.net 

Not long after he shared his conversion online I contacted him and we stayed in touch. I was so thrilled to interview him. His story is one of the most powerful and encouraging I’ve ever heard.

 

His success in the new age arena made him extremely rich and much sought after.

Steven Bancarz

His story of recently becoming a Christian after an encounter with the presence of Jesus, made big news across both new age and christian social media. It has been featured widely, including TV.

His below testimony with the 700 Club of CBN, originally aired June 30th, 2017.

The below video was the first one I saw of Steven. I was so impressed and delighted watching it. I highly recommend it!

He is the founder of Reasons for Jesus  an apologetics-based website dedicated to providing justification for a Biblical worldview and a rational defense for faith in Jesus Christ.

More About Steven Bancarz

”I used to be a full-time New Age blogger and founder of a website that amassed over 100 million views in a year and a half. The website taught reincarnation, pantheism, ancient astronaut theory, mysticism, and different theories of consciousness. Making a fortune for myself in ad revenue, I thought I was being blessed by God by helping wake people up to a higher level of consciousness.

This page used to be named “Spirit Science & Metaphysics” and was renamed Reasons for Jesus after Jesus revealed Himself to me, overwhelmed me with His presence, showed me He was exactly who He claimed to me in the Bible, and saved me from the brokenness and deception I was trapped in. Jesus be glorified.

On this site we will be looking at answers to questions, responses to objections, and positive reasons for why Jesus is exactly who he claimed to be: The Son of God and the only means of salvation. ” Steven Bancarz .

*****

The founder of Eternal Radio advertises Laura Maxwell‘s interview with Steven Bancarz With updates from the HQ of Eternal Radio: Iglesia International Costa Del Sol and Hollymoor Community Church.

*****

A FASCINATING SHOW YOU WON’T WANT TO MISS!!!

I was so thrilled to interview Steven Bancarz   His famous and influential conversion and ministry is a dream come true to me and I pray it leads many seekers and new agers to Jesus and truth! Hallelujah!

LAURA’S NOTE: My sincere apologies, been having recording problems. My voice sounds very low and slowed down, almost like a man and there are pauses after my guests speak!!! Trying to fix this but so far no success!!!

A YouTube viewer kindly suggested this to improve sound quality: ”Click the HD Settings gear icon at the bottom right of the screen, next to the Theater mode/Full-screen views, then click on Speed, and play the video at 1.25 or 1.5 speed. That way, the audio sounds close to normal.”

DETAILS ABOUT THE SHOW:

The show will air this Friday at 8pm UK, 12 PST, 2pm CST, 3pm EST and repeat later on Friday at 11:30pm UK, 3:30pm PST, 5:30pm CST and 6:30pm EST.

It will also be REPEATED over the next two weeks on these days:

  1. Monday, Tuesday,Wednesday, Thursday and Friday at 11:30pm UK, 3:30pm PST, 5:30pm CST and 6:30pm EST.

To hear Laura’s show online at the above times, please visit Tune In Radio at http://tunein.com/radio/Eternal-Radio-s155805/

*****

You can also hear other great shows by a variety of presenters on Eternal Radio:

Listen On Tablet, On Smart TV and On Smartphone. Listen through a variety of listening platforms. Why not visit www.eternalradio.org.uk to find the best one for you? Or get the free ER listen app from Apple or Google Play. The app has other great features such as: social media integration and contact links all built in!

*****

ON DEMAND REPEATS

Eternal Radio upload a selection of their hosts’ shows to their YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpi3KidT55e2p-I92b1c3Jw

All of Laura’s shows can be heard on her YouTube Playlist. See below:

Programs may be subject to change – please check Eternal Radio’s Timetable at: http://www.eternalradio.org.uk/Timetable/

http://www.eternalradio.org.uk/Radio-Shows/The-Supernatural

Eternal Radio Logo

More About Laura’s Radio Show:

For full details of Laura Maxwell’s show, please see her link.

Click this link for her Guest Schedule – For Archives and upcoming guests!

*****

Are your friends involved in paranormal or occult practises? If you care, please share my blog posts. Your silence is consent, so please expose demonic lies!

Spread truth – Christ’s love and goodness liberates those trapped in darkness, “… you will know the truth and The Truth shall set you free.”

Psalm 96:3 (NLT) ‘Publish his glorious deeds among the nations. Tell everyone about the amazing things He does.’

*****

Eternal Radio, Spain.

Please pray for ‘The Supernatural with Laura Maxwell’, if you feel led. Please pray, those God wants to reach, through this show will hear it. My guests and myself would so appreciate your prayers too.

Many thanks indeed! All glory to God. God bless you!

*****

Disclaimer: Laura Maxwell does not necessarily agree with all the information and conclusions presented by friends, guest articles or other features on her blog or radio show!

*****

 

Posted in Aliens, Alternative Healing, Angel Cards, Angels, Apologetics, Ascended Masters, Astrology, Challenge & Test The Spirits!, Channeling, Dead People, Debunking Athiesm, Deliverance, Divination, Energy Healing, Eternal Radio, Evangelism, Evidence for Jesus and The Bible, Frequently Asked Questions, Guest Articles, Luciferianism, Matrix Energetics, Meditation, Mediums, multidimensional beings, Necromancy, New Age Luciferianism, New World Order, Occult, Paganism, Paranormal, Past Life Regression, Past Lives, Pleiadianism, Radio Programs, Reiki, Reincarnation, Residual Energies, Seance, Secret Societies, Shamanism, Sikhism, Spirits & Ghosts, Spiritualism, Summoning Spirits, Supernatural, Table Tipping, Tarot Cards, Testimonies, The New Age, The Ouija Board, The Supernatural With Laura Maxwell, The Truth Movement, Theosophy, Truth Seeker, Whistleblowers, Wicca, Witchcraft, Yoga, YouTube, Zeitgeist | Tagged , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | Leave a comment
%d bloggers like this: